Second Captains Part II

Couple of Eoins best days back to back. Didn't let Ken get into the negative too early yesterday either.

**** off

>People are free to spend their money on what they like without being judged

Not a chance, I'll judge plenty of people on how they spend their money. And it doesn't stop at football. Literally everything.

Fair play to you. I like to judge.

We just like supporting our own national League and getting up off the armchair. It's gas that if it was the GAA nobody would ever dream of supporting another county over their own but with football the excuses come out.

There's no comparison with the GAA and irish soccer.

Underage irish soccer destroys any hope of that loyalty. Competitive leagues mean teams have a natural selection and push away young people along the way. Chat to young people who play soccer and all they'll chat about is transfers to other clubs. They're rarely loyal to a club. They jump leagues and teams most years.

This isn't the fault of the children, parents or clubs. It's the FAI systems. Everyone is hanging on for the big transfer to the pros.

Theres a few underage clubs that have links to LOI but they come and go.

Add to that LOI clubs also hoping for the lotto wins of transfers and european soccer or rich owners which means they've rolled the dice and gone bust too.

Irish soccer has nothing to do with identity until it reaches national level. A few of the LOI clubs have made a better effort at it in the last few year now that Rovers have finally found a home and the likes of Bohs and Pats are looking at their communities more but much much more needs to be done.

The GAA is all about identity and won't ever change. That is the foundation stone of it's success. It's a cartel, they collectively fund to keep each other going and maintain the ecosystem. Soccer just doesn't have that mentality.

Don't worry, I'll listen to it to it twice to make up for it. :D

From listening to the pod yesterday it sounds like Vera is gone and rightly so.

Any particular reason why it's "rightly so"?

Threw her captain under the bus and then reversed over her.

Vera disclosed far more information than she needed to about her exchange with Katie saying Farrelly should have been subbed off.

FWIW I think Katie was wrong too but I assume players would shout towards the bench the whole time but the manager should have brushed the question off in the interview as 99% of managers would do

I think before the tournament we probably weren't expected to do much better. But none of the teams looked far superior to us and Vera didn't change it up. It really felt like there were points there to get against all the teams. Sheva gave away the penalty but Vea played her out of position. Sheva is like 5ft 2, she shouldn't really be near the defence.

It was very much like the Trap era.

I don't know if what McCabe did was wrong tbh. It was pretty clear we needed fresh legs and Vera didn't look like she was making any changes. McCabe is entitled to complain in the heat of the moment. I think you can forgive a frustrated footballer for that. I think Katie is great, she is our best player and I never see her losing the head with other players who are of lesser quality.

Vera is very calculated in what she does and says. She easily could have not stoked the fire. Katie will be the face of the team for the next few years so it was miscalculation by Vera to throw her under.

I thought he was trying to troll Eoin and Murph

"Another win for Vietnam"

I'll give Murph credit, that one made me laugh.

I once gifted a man a blue Swiss Army knife, he almost instantly chopped off a substantial chunk of one of his fingers.

Finding it hard to get excited. City will probably piss it again, all the **** going on with Saudi Arabia too, find it hard to care anymore

That was my first hearing of Paul Flynn's tweet. I'd have no issue if Clifford didn't win player of the year, I'm not entirely sure of he deserves it really but Paul Flynn sounded like a bl a knob saying he was 'smoked'. Seems needlessly aggressive for someone who is meant to be a pundit/analyst

He had a poor game but that was more down to his decision making than Dublin nullifying him

Murph made excellent if not slight depressing points on how Clifford could have had such a bigger impact

Where abouts in the podcast was that? I must not have been paying attention

No I think your right, Ken is the only one to ever bring betting odds into conversation and I've always picked up that Eoin in particular seems annoyed by it.

As Ken said it's basically analysing data he even had a dig at Eoin at the end of yesterday's show about having no problem listening to lists of medal winners but gets excercised the second betting odds are brought up. I get the moral issues of gambling etc but surely speaking about the data is fair game.

I agree with Ken FWIW

Very hard to argue with any of that but having games on adds a bit of structure to the weekend.

I don't think it's friction as such but I think it's clear Eoin has no time for gambling being mentioned on the show even if it's in relation to odds (which I do find interesting).