Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

RWC23 Warmups - Ireland v Italy, Sat 5th Aug, KO 8PM - TV: RTÉ2 and RTÉ Player, Amazon Prime Video

Options
1…1112131416

Comments

  • Options
    #452
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,519 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949735#Comment_120949735

    If you've any unsettled squad like England, you need time together to create a "team". Borthwick must have had about 60 players in his training squads so far, so no opportunity to create a team environment.

    He now had 3 weeks to create that team



  • Options
    #453
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949595#Comment_120949595

    Because if you had, you would have realized that it was a mostly second string NZ side. They made 12 changes to the starting XV from the week before. So going on about their performance against an average Wallabies team is pointless.

    Now I don't think this ABs team is as strong as previous incarnations but it is the best they've looked in the Foster era. Much like Ireland, if they get through the QF, then I would expect them to make the final.



  • Options
    #454
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,519 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    New Zealand are joint favourites for the competition, and have never sent a more experienced squad to a world cup before.

    They are absolutely a force to be reckoned with



  • Options
    #455
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949735#Comment_120949735

    Theyll likely still have others involved anyway like players who are on standby list. players not in final squad dont have to leave/not train with teams yet.

    getting used to timezone isnt really a factor i would say, teams are still down in SH for another while yet. if you know what your final places are then why not name it. You could name a squad but not have submitted it yet anyway.



  • Options
    #456
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    NZ are coming north quite early. They are playing the Boks in Twickenham on the 26th. I read somewhere that they named a few extra players who will travel north and be on standby in case of injuries.



  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #457
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949794#Comment_120949794

    100%. You occasionally hear “they’re not as strong as previous incarnations” but those previous incarnations (2011, 2015) were probably the best team to ever play the game.



  • Options
    #458
    ersatz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Am I the only one on the planet who wasn't that impressed with Casey on Saturday? I thought he was slow to decide where he was passing off rucks, made some bad decisions and generally looks off the pace. He bounces around a lot and looks very quick but was his delivery any quicker than Blade's or Murray's normally is?



  • Options
    #459
    gameoverdude
    Registered Users Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949853#Comment_120949853

    I think the extra players have to stay outside the host country? Could be completely wrong though.



  • Options
    #460
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949984#Comment_120949984

    Yeah they'll probably train with them in the UK until the squad heads over to France then they'll probably just keep training in the UK until they're needed.



  • Options
    #461
    gameoverdude
    Registered Users Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950015#Comment_120950015

    After squad announcements?



  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #462
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950026#Comment_120950026

    Yeah I think so. Not 100% certain though.



  • Options
    #463
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,263 ✭✭✭✭phog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949891#Comment_120949891

    Almost definitely.



  • Options
    #464
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,571 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    The tonga game is a serious potential banana skin, its this years japan game and we better be right for it because they will be ready for us and they have some serious talent in their team.


    As far as i can see we play whoever against romania, thats essentially another warm up. But the team for the tonga game is picked based on the team for the SA game.

    So we pack the bench for the Tonga game and have pretty close to our starting team for the SA game as the team that finishes the tonga match.


    Win those 3 games and your into a QF with a few weeks and a game to spare.



  • Options
    #465
    gameoverdude
    Registered Users Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950068#Comment_120950068

    Handy for us. Believe in the last world cup the reserve players went on "holiday" in Korea or Australia?



  • Options
    #466
    Downlinz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    People really need to stop talking up Tonga so much, just because they have a few big name veteran players in their ranks doesn't suddenly make them a force to be reckoned with. They finished bottom of the Pacific Nations cup losing every game and haven't beaten a tier 1 side in 7 years.

    Japan by comparison won the Pacific Nations Cup in 2019 and had beaten Italy and drawn with France the year before so the signs were very different.



  • Options
    #467
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    We're grand slam holders, number 1 team in the world, we should be looking at the first couple of games in the RWC as tuning games, no offence to either team but our second string should be able to for them, anything less than bonus point wins in those would be a disaster.



  • Options
    #468
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949984#Comment_120949984

    They're not allowed train with the squad and there is a 48 (or 72?) hour period between being called up and being allowed train with the squad no matter where they are. Pretty sure they are allowed be in the country though, no way you could enforce otherwise.



  • Options
    #469
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950441#Comment_120950441

    72 hours. to stop you having a load of players in country and just adding them immediately if you do lose a player. its to counter fact some countries wont be able to have/afford to have players training etc in country for tournament.



  • Options
    #470
    All_in_Flynn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Watched the game again earlier. Fair enough it was a disjointed second half display but we left at least 5 try's out there with a team that has never played together in a first game of the season.

    Irrespective of the scoreboard and fluency of the performance, the thing that really gave me encouragement was the physicality of the Irish players. Nearly everyone on the team looked very powerful and that bodes well I think. It's an early indicator that we have gotten our prep right this time.



  • Options
    #471
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,751 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Is there a set date for squad announcement here?



  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #472
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,519 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950501#Comment_120950501

    I think it's August 28th



  • Options
    #473
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950501#Comment_120950501

    Think it was confirmed a while back that it will be announced on August 28th. has to be sent to world rugby before sept 1st



  • Options
    #474
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120945376#Comment_120945376

    Edit - Never mind the conversation has moved on.



  • Options
    #475
    noc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭noc1980


    Can we afford to put out our 2nd string against Romania and Tonga? What if Scotland beat SA, SA beats us and we beat Scotland? Then points difference comes in to play and the score we put on Tonga and Romania could be critical, right?



  • Options
    #476
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,751 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950512#Comment_120950512
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950529#Comment_120950529

    The English have announced very esrly.



  • Options
    #477
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950593#Comment_120950593

    Yes. Romania wont be an issue regardless who we put out. They only qualified because of Spain having an ineligible player in an ENC game. It would go to points difference in that case but we should still be rather comfortable against Romania at least.

    And it wont be completely 2nd string against either. it will be mix of players who need game time who didnt get enough in warm ups and squad players



  • Options
    #478
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950593#Comment_120950593

    Tonga shouldn't be a second string team. It should be the full first choice team coming together in a tuning up game the week before we play South Africa imo.



  • Options
    #479
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 10,350 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949891#Comment_120949891

    I think he's a better player than he showed on Sat, especially given the disjointed nature of the team by the time he came on. Casey was decent, probably better than I've seen him play previously, but I'm not convinced he's the second coming. He also had the benefit of playing with his provincal partner.



  • Options
    #480
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 24,019 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Second string. Dirt trackers. The economy seats.

    I suspect the best teams; England 2003, New Zealand 2011 etc, considered that any player should be able to come on at any time and for there to be zero drop in standard or effectiveness.

    We've never really been in that position before, but we can rightly expect to be now.

    Yes, the schedule is punishing and player management will be vital, but really any 23 of the 33 should have the expectation to win, against any team in the Group l, even South Africa.

    When you see the England squad named today and see how crap it is, that should assure anyone involved in the Ireland squad, that any team in the World Cup is there for the taking. Except maybe France.

    We'll just have to hope the weight of expectation detonates them somewhere along the line.



  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #481
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,418 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120950452#Comment_120950452

    You can have them in the country just not the squad. You couldn't very well temporarily deport the entire extended French squad for a month!

    The 72 hours is to even things out with flying players in from anywhere on the planet. If a NZ player is called up he gets 3 days to get flights sorted and to join up with the rest of the squad. If a French player lives just down the road from the basecamp he's just not supposed to go down there before the 72 hours.



Advertisement