So UFOs aren't a theory anymore - but we still don't know what they are

Grusch has no credible evidence of aliens (just hearsay).

The head of AARO, who has full access, states there is currently no direct evidence of aliens (this is a guy who openly believes there is other life in the universe)

Maybe there are crashed alien spaceships OR maybe some people in the DoD, some ex members and other staff (the kinds of people who go to alien conventions and appear on "Ancient Aliens") are just making stuff up. And Grusch is believing them, and believing he is whistle-blowing. In a sphere that has so far been 100% comprised of people making stuff up. For decades.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

On the second last phase here. Proceeding nicely.

Once the evidence starts coming in there will be some fleeting personal attacks on the source and nature of the evidence. It shouldnt last too long.

Then the final insult will be that they announce it was all self evident and it wasnt a REAL conspiracy. Thats what they really hate to admit .. that conspiracies are real - people in power lie - its a safety blanket thing with some people.

No one is saying conspiracies don't happen.

I strongly suspect the conspiracy here is that Grusch has been fed tall-tales by other people inside and outside the program.

The alternative is that there are "dead alien pilots" and "alien spaceships" sitting in warehouses in America, like in the film "Independence day", all hidden by a vast decades long conspiracy.

I could play along and entertain the latter with the generic "let's wait and see", but at this stage I'll trust the ocean of red flags

As I have already explained to you, it is not true.

Grusch's boss gave him a directive to document every classified and UFO program that the Pentagon is aware of, regardless of whether or not the public is aware of these programs. In reality, his faction's actual US government represents the American people.

Did you not listen to the conference? He clearly said he tried to gain access to this UFO-type Roswell-like crash retrieval program while on the job and was denied access.

This suggests someone higher up in the Department of Defence was trying to protect the program and prevent any further investigation into it. The fact that the Inspector General found the complaint to be credible and urgent further demonstrates the seriousness of the situation happening today.

In reality, people in government and other governments are having behind-the-scenes battles to share the truth about what the US government knows. 

Think this important news was done on hearsay? This is the Democratic majority leader. The new legislation gives them 300 days, to tell the truth or be legal implications

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), along with a bipartisan group of five other senators, introduced extraordinary legislation on July 13, suggesting that the U.S. government or private contractors may secretly possess recovered UFOs and “biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence.”

According to the legislation, “non-human intelligence” is defined as “any sentient intelligent non-human life-form, regardless of nature or ultimate origin which may be presumed responsible for” UFOs.

Given the decades-long stigma associated with the UFO topic, such stunning language is not included in bipartisan congressional legislation on a mere whim, let alone proposed by the Senate’s top lawmaker.

https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4101345-non-human-intelligence-schumer-proposes-stunning-new-ufo-legislation/

Keeping large-scale events or conspiracies quiet for long periods of time is difficult because there are too many people who can potentially leak information or be bribed to talk. Therefore, keeping something secret for decades likely requires a much smaller group of people than is often assumed. I think it's nonsense when debunkers claim thousands.

You would need a small number of people to keep it hidden. You would need people to guard it, maintain security, study it, and officials to oversee the whole operation.

Outside of that, everyone else would be pretty much oblivious to what was happening. A vast conspiracy that involves thousands of people is unlikely.

The debunkers aren't telling the truth here, claiming it's all hearsay. This is a lie. To the Congresspeople, Grusch clearly stated he will tell them where the craft is hidden, the locations, everything the need, as well as provide a list of people involved in this project and the hostile witnesses. There is no doubt that the officials who control the secret UFO program are hostile witnesses.

Grusch attempted to assess this UFO crash retrieval program. Thats not hearsay actually hands-on experience.

Grusch found the program and ran into difficulties gaining access to it be read in. Clearly, you do not understand that point here. In his capacity as a whistleblower, he complained that the program was operating outside of normal Pentagon procedures, and the inspector general confirmed his complaint and said it was serious and urgent. Despite Congress' understanding of the rules, we got a UFO program that did not follow them. The whole point of congress debate was to tell them in a classified setting what is going on behind the scenes.

He is an NRO division chief who has the top-secret clearance necessary to view all US engineering black operations projects. Must have hidden something very unique and amazing at the locations he knows about, if he was turned away.

Personally, I am okay with having doubts until we get the revelation, but Grusch is a pretty credible witness based on his credentials. 

AARO was preceded by The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF), a 2020[1] to 2021 program within the Office of Naval Intelligence used to "standardize collection and reporting" of sightings of UFOs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-domain_Anomaly_Resolution_Office

In addition to not investigating whistleblower complaints, it appears to be primarily concerned with sightings of UFOs.The general consensus is that this is just another project bluebook that gives some transparency but not a lot. As with project sign, grudge, and end bluebook, Kirkpatrick is just the same people who appeared in the past.

 Until Congress can properly review Grusch's credibility on this subject, it is difficult to determine how it will all play out in the future. I have nothing more to add to this discussion until fresh news emerges.

Simple made up answer to all 3 questions: "their lives are in danger so they said nothing"

Of course there isn't a drop of evidence their lives were in danger, or that any were "offed".

There are things happening now that will be groundbreaking over the next year. Rubio is getting ready to bring in additional witnesses, and a new hearing will take place. They are also trying to establish new Senate hearings with new laws that basically subpoena anybody they like to get answers to this crash retrieval stuff.

To cover up something this big, gatekeepers were always necessary, and Donald Rumsfield I always viewed as one of them. I also believe he was involved in some way in the events and cover-up of 9/11. JFK unsure. I hope to hear his name come out when this blows wide open. Debunkers like you, of course. What are you talking about? Let's wait and see! How they kept it all hidden is through people like Donald Rumsfield. Yes, there were murders to keep the UFO topic secret. Grusch said it, and he was right. 

See if your critique on this works out.

Why does this mostly have to be centred around the US ?

If these things are as prevalent as the whistleblower makes out, surely lots of other countries have them piled up somewhere and hard to think that everyone involved across the world has been kept quiet without producing nailed on evidence?

And the Vatican was involved in helping them secure the craft.

who says it's a vehicle?

A vehicle is something whish is used to transport people or goods.

Why are you calling this blurry object a vehicle?

What's inside it?

How can you call it a vehicle if you don't know what's inside it?

What evidence do you have to suggest that there's anything inside of it at all, that we debunkers have a psychological problem from seeing? show me why you think it's a vehicle and I'll tell you why you're jumping to conclusions and, ultimately, wrong.

Time to put up or shut up: show us the evidence and we'll discuss it. But if you don't have any evidence at all, bar a blurry object on a video, then wtf do you expect? How can people believe the evidence if you don't have any feckin evidence to begin with?

I have exactly the same amount of evidence for calling it a bouncy castle as you do a vehicle. SFA.