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2023 In Between Grand Slam Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    He drop shot Alcaraz to death today. They were unreal. Speaking of unreal Ostapenko in the 3rd set against Kasatkina just hitting winner after winner. She hit 48 winners in the match.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Nadal holding a press conference tomorrow, presumably to announce his withdrawal from RG.

    Djokovic lost to Rune today, so his RG fine tuning hasn't exactly gone to plan either.

    Surprising loss for Alcaraz earlier in the week but I wouldn't look into it too much, at his age these kind of losses are still going to happen occasionally. Still one of the favourites in Paris.

    Post edited by yerwanthere123 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Don't be surprised to see Djokovic lifting the trophy in Paris, logically he shouldn't, but, there really isn't anyone ( Alcaraz apart) that can match him over the 5 set format. If he survives the early rounds he'll be difficult to stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    It'll be telling alright, 36 years old and on his weakest surface but the rest of the tour just seem to wilt against him over 5 sets. I've never been a big fan of his tennis but his mental strength is just something else.

    I wouldn't put it past him, I think he'll breeze Wimbledon barring injury anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae


    Don't think Rune has played him in a grand slam , would fancy him against Djockovic if they meet in Paris tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I've just thrown a tenner on Casper Ruud at 25/1. He'll be seeded 4, can't meet Alcaraz or Djokovic until the semis and there's no Nadal. Worth a punt at that price I thought. Rune would be the player seeded below him to avoid in the draw.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Oh definitely, Djokovic is still the favourite that's for sure, but this year there's slightly more intrigue than usual. At least Alcaraz looks like a genuine threat though, and Rune doesn't seem to be afraid of him either.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Ruud is finally finding a bit of form after a terrible start to the season, but got to think SF's or another final is his absolute peak. But you never know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I think the plan will be cash out if he gets to the semis and he still has to get through Alcaraz, Djokovic or even Rune. There could be some shocks along the way though, the semi final line up in Madrid was very poor aside from Alcaraz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    I would be surprised tbh. Djokovic has been very unconvincing on clay so far this year. Yes, he is a different beast on BO5, but there are some concerns around his fitness/injury niggles. Not ideal going into the most gruelling slam.

    Apart from Rome, Alcaraz has been the form player this spring. He is already a slam winner, and won't be intimidated by Djokovic. Himself and Rune appear to have a different mindset to the "Next Gen".

    First week in RG will tell us a lot. The most open FO in a long long time, due to Nadals absence. Feels weird, even slightly hollow, not having him there. But the show must go on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭dublin49


    The recent success of low ranked players like Cerundolo,Hanfmann,Marozsan and Struff against top ranked players suggests players like Tsitipas,Medvedev and Zverez are much more vunerable to early defeat than the big 3 were in their pomp.I think this will play well for Djock in RG as he is unlikely to be ambushed by a low ranked player over 5 sets but his main rivals might.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Medvedev will never win anything on clay and Zverev looks a long way off the player he was a few years back, I wouldn't read too much into that. Tsitsipas is notoriously flaky too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Agreed. That "next gen" contingent are slowly becoming the "lost gen". Bar Medvedev, they have been very underwhelming. Alcaraz, and potentially Rune, looks to have already passed them out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭dublin49


    I think Rome and Madrid have demonstrated that there is a definite levelling up of quality,for years watching the big three crush Gasquet/Verdasco/Fognini etc on their inevitable march to the Quarter/Semi Finals got tiresome. Now there is a potential upset in every match.Not sure this will be replicated at the Majors but hopefully it will.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    As expected no Nadal at RG. Says he'll be out for a few months and 2024 will be his last year on tour.

    Barring any crippling injuries, Djokovic should comfortably stand alone at the top of the table when all is said and done.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    The next gen were just a poor gen, not able to compete with the big 3 and now getting surpassed by the following generation. They had to wait for time to beat both Federer and Nadal and still not able for Djokovic at slam level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I didn’t see this at the time but saw her tweet about her third operation and the two words that popped into my head were Laura Robson, and how she had to retire early after what seemed like a long list of injuries on her shoulder or wrist, I can’t remember exactly.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Simona Halep charged with a second doping offense.

    Not looking likely we'll be seeing her back on court to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Well, Medvedev took all of 3 days to prove that prediction wrong 😳



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I know Norrie is limited but Cerundolo just blew him away...he could be a tricky opponent at the French open



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Nice to see Murray making another challenger final in Surbiton. He could still be a very tricky opponent for most people at Wimbledon as things stand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Murray has won in Surbiton, his first grass title since Wimbledon in 2016



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Murray in another Challenger final in Nottingham, that's 9 wins in a row, ok it isn't at ATP but still! Nice to see.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Murray wins in Nottingham 6-4,6-4 didn't drop a set in the tournament, back into top 40 a win or two at queens and he should be seeded for Wimbledon.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Anett Kontaveit is retiring after Wimbledon due to a chronic back injury. Sad how brutal the sport has become, and one of the reasons we'll probably be waiting a long time to ever see someone get into the 10/15+ slams category again.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Great to see Alcaraz winning Queens, a fantastic way to bounce back from the disappointment of RG. Still too much of an unknown factor on grass to be labelled a contender at Wimbledon, but matches are what he needed above all else and he got five of them plus the title this week.

    Sakkari suffered her 22nd career SF loss in Berlin to Vekic. Surely time to part ways with her coach now, this is a long running problem that needs fixing. She'll be 28 next month, not on the young side of the game any more, but still young enough to turn things around. Although I just saw she's apparently got Mark Philippoussis on board for Wimbledon, so maybe he'll make a difference.

    Kvitova and Ostapenko winners in Berlin and Eastbourne respectively, but I don't hold out much hope of either going far at Wimbledon. Bublik beat Rublev in Halle to win his second career title.

    Here's a stat about Halle for you

    😬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Tsitsipas didn't defend his title in Mallorca, beaten in his first match.

    Is Mallorca not a bit south and hot for a grass court? Or is the grass court swing the only part of the calendar they were able to find a free slot?

    Post edited by josip on


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    In somewhat bizarre news, Caroline Wozniacki has announced a return to the tour. Aiming to return for the US Open series, will be interesting to see how this works out.

    I'm thinking it'll go badly and she'll retire in a huff some time after the Australian Open... but maybe she'll prove me wrong!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    She struggled to win a slam in her prime, so hard to see her doing it after a 3 year break, if she did, it would undermine the current crop of players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,440 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Maybe she's short a few pound



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭poppy37


    It’s very strange news, it’s definitely not for financial reasons, she still has plenty of sponsors and her husband had a very successful pro basketball career and is from a very wealthy background.

    I guess she thinks she can still compete at a high level and she won’t lack fitness unlike Kim Clijsters whose last comeback was a disaster. I just think there are too many power players now and her speed around the court which was one of her main attributes won’t be as strong and efficient after three years out.

    Nevertheless I wish her well and hope it doesn’t contribute to a deterioration of her health problems, rheumatoid arthritis is an incurable condition and from what I recall she had it pretty bad before she retired.

    In other news Simona Halep was supposed to have had her long awaited doping hearing in the past day or so with a lot of speculation that she will be handed down a two year ban which if it came to pass would efficiently end her career.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Whatever about sneaking another Grand Slam title, I can't see Djokovic ever reclaiming #1 from Alcaraz and adding to his 389 weeks total.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/66286236



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I just saw the US Open is on Sky Sports this year. It looks like Amazon are pulling the plug on their tennis coverage at the end of the year too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭dublin49


    thats a bummer as Amazon covered every match which was great.Good match at 10pm tonite ,new break out player Talon Greikspoor playing Dan Evans,

    Greikspoor going for third victory ,although hes 27 this is the first year I have noticed his name.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Yeah it's a real shame Amazon are dropping the tennis, there's no way Sky will be able to rival their comprehensive coverage. Musn't have been bringing in the numbers for Amazon that they were hoping for. Feels kinda nostalgic that it's going back to Sky, they covered the US Open when I first started watching tennis, but there's no way in hell I'll be subscribing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    The quality of the men's game has gone down over the last few years, no real rival for Djokovic in that period until Alcaraz this season, plus covid affecting a few seasons. Interest in the game has gone down from its peak 6/7/8 years ago. Just a few factors which probably impacted the uptake on Amazon's tennis coverage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭dublin49


    So Federers gone,Nadal almost,and Djock is becoming Majors only ,the mens game is more interesting than its been since pre big 3/4.Anyone in the draw even qualifiers can win which I think is great.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Not nice to see Sakkari crying during the Washington trophy ceremony. Don't think this week does anything for her confidence unfortunately, gets over the semi final hurdle only to worsen her finals record. Now 1-7 in finals and has lost six in a row, losing this one to a player she lead 4-1 in the h2h.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    It might be more unpredictable, but, it's star power that gets the subscriptions, when that's missing, most of the audiences bar the die hards will turn off, that's the reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭dublin49


    I am thinking new stars will emerge ,like 19 yo Arthur Fils ,Rune and Sinner should improve, but personally good riddance to the inexorable procession of the big 3 to all semi finals ,walloping Berdych,Gasquet ,Fognini ad nauseum ,with only the odd upset to prove the rule.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Philipoussis takes over head coach role for Tsitsipas. I wonder will this give him the push he needs to get over the line in slams.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    The unpredictability is great, but, as they are not well known names, they don't entice people to pay Amazon to watch them, that's the reality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭dublin49


    you are probably right ,like the Tiger Factor in golf ,I think viewing figures increased dramatically when he was playing,people tuning in to see him win his 91st or whatever tournament.Although I think that was more Federer and Nadal.I dont sense Djock has the same Star appeal or fan base.Anyways I will be happy to see newbees duelling it out in the coming years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Some call last night by Fergus Murphy in the Tiafoe/Raonic match. How many even knew this rule existed?




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Caroline Wozniacki about to get underway in Montreal against Kimberly Birrell. Will be interesting to see her level after 3.5 years out of the game and at 33 years of age.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Yeah that was really interesting. I wasn't aware that rule existed either, I just assumed the net was the net.

    I also can't say I've ever paid particular attention to the net size, or that they use a different size net for doubles. I mean, obviously they do, but can't say I ever actually noticed the difference.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Always knew there was a different length of net for singles but didn't realise that there were different rules for the net. Most clubs wouldn't use those poles on the net either.



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