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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I think this whole debacle has really put the spotlight on the rest of RTE's "talent" and of course RTE in general. If any other similar discoveries become apparent at other similar organisations (and you can bet there's stuff going on right now) it will put them in an awkward position to comment and for them to be perceived as having a truly impartial view. In other words, in areas such as this their credibility as an organisation has been greatly compromised. Taking for example the "talk to Joe show", going forward every caller is a potential difficult one and that also goes for any live debate show. Even if somehow they return Tubridy to radio**, they just can't let him engage with the public on a live platform. The whole suggestion that the injection of the Ryan Tubridy "brand" from 9am somehow initiates and sustaines a premium level of advertising revenue for the rest of the afternoon is crass. And if this way of thinking and selling this idea is coming from Backhurst and/or his executive circle, well then I think they are questioning the intelligence of the listener and the greater population and if that is so, I definitely wouldn't hold out any hope for meaningful change at RTE.

    **Not RTE Radio 1 specific, they may attempt to install him on a digital service on a salary that has been reduced significantly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,260 ✭✭✭Damien360


    What's the context behind the famous RT photo where he emulating JFK drawing in the background ? Why was it set up ? Is it a skit ? Did the photographer ask for that setup and RT was game or clueless ? Trying to understand why a public figure would allow themselves into that situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    It's the cover of a book he wrote or co-wrote. At a guess the usual lack of self-awareness and constant need to promote/draw attention to himself were the motivators behind mimicking it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Expunge


    He's wearing more or less the same clothes as the illustrated JFK behind him. The boy is styled in a very similar way to the kid in the illustration.

    I think we can assume it's very much the Noel Kelly way to plan this as a not so subtle suggestion that Ryan was to be a very presidential figure.

    Not in a Paddy Hilary or Michael D way. Christ, they take us for such eejits and it probably would have worked too.

    Now, from what I hear, Ryan will begin his Charlie Haughey, post Arms Trial style rehabilitation on the broadcasting version of the 'rubber chicken' circuit.

    Starting on Lyric FM, on Sundays probably. A low impact gig where most people won't even be aware he's still on an RTE channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,465 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Hmmm. ….”.rubber chicken” wouldn’t be too sure about that… at least ‘corn fed’ to my way of thinking.

    Would suggest that Marty three Jobs , Aedín Ni Gormlaith, John “Edgy” Kelly and a few more are not eating

    off paper plates and plastic cutlery??

    Tubberty wouldnt be weighing in below those well fed geese, if I know Ar Tee Eeeee.

    Rum do surely…..eeeee



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    I would surmise this is the only thing preventing the Toymans prodigal son like return. I doubt Bakhurst and the rest of the establishment and golden circle give a damn about public opinion or depleting licence fees. We saw this with Leo’s exposure as a crook, it was all about the legalities rather than ethics and how a public figure should conduct themselves, technically if a law was not broken then carry on as usual. The month of July was to a large extent a slow drip feed of mundane dross trying to in some way redeem the Toyman. Fell on deaf ears but that didn’t seem to matter and this was upped to talk of a return date. The only stumbling block is RTÉ staff that clearly have some clout and detest him and the carry on by his ilk. Can’t really see any way for Bakhurst but to get rid of him as the staff won’t be persuaded that he should return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Tubs couldn't just write the book, he features prominently in the artwork:

    Screenshot 2023-08-08 at 19.22.57.png Screenshot 2023-08-08 at 19.21.33.png Screenshot 2023-08-08 at 19.21.49.png

    I genuinely wasn't aware of this until a number of posters mentioned this over the last few days. One pic would be bad enough, there's a few - and that's just from a quick look online. I haven't and won't be looking for a copy to check every page.

    Trying to subliminally insert himself into history and associate himself with JFK by proxy.

    Again I'd ask, does anyone around him say "no" to the man?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,717 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Ah please stop posting those creepy pics 😐

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,465 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    You ‘avin a larf?

    Only problem with the ‘staff’ is they weren’t in on the ‘deals’ goin’ on.

    A few ‘millon’ of taxpayers money will soften them up.

    I mean, look at the Shinners!!

    Almost convinced the gullible that they were only taking only the AIW.

    And salting away ‘millions’.🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    The way Tubridy goes on about JFK. He wasn’t even born when JFK visited Ireland.



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  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer




  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, it is how RTE talent think and operate. The product is not the book, the product is the tallent. It was not always this way, but has been for a couple of decades now.

    Unfortunately for Tubbs he stamped his feet up and down, refused to accept a pay cut, pretended he did to his coworkers and public, caused multiple people to destroy their careers, brought to public attention how RTE spends people's money etc.

    I don't know how the idea that RTE depended on him was built up within their management, he lost about half of Gerry Ryan's listeners when he got his slot.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    A Gript article prediction that ultimately the public need a known public face to blame, and he is that face, so won’t get back if the license fee protest continues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Sorry someone posted this up before I can't seem to find the OP

    Timmy starts of by telling us that few could know. Well that's not really true, as the spending decisions (above board decisions) were all over the place along with axing of some programming strands. The way in which the service had been present over the last 10 years should have suggested issues within RTÉ, and I think many did suggest there were problems within RTÉ's management. I under this pseudonym, and a previous one, highlighted these here on boards, as did others in many of the forums from the broadcasting forum to the radio forum and to the TV forum. And I have written to many politician's about it all, I have no doubt that others have also.

    He goes on to say the he and the politicians found out over the past few weeks that there were "serious failings in its management" and governance. IMO many knew the issues in RTÉ and its bad management across its services, it was no surprise to many outside the political sphere.

    One example of bad management is that they did not know that they need to submit a proposal to the minister and the department to close its digital radio services. When they found out that this was required they were insistent that they would submit such a proposal, but they never did, instead just switching off DAB.

    This was part of their fanciful "strategy 2024" that saw them selling of art works and the RTÉ guide, that sport would be moved to RTÉ ONE from RTÉ2, that they'd move Lyric FM to Dublin and Cork. The only part of that strategy that they completed was the move of the NSO to the NCH, which they did a year later than expected, and that was instigated by the legislators, RTÉ had no remit to do anything with the NSO without sanction from the Department. And as I say when they did get sanction they failed to move on it.

    He then largely praises Mr. Bakhurst. The fact that he "stood down" the executive board and replaced them with a "leadership" team and that his words show him to be someone wanting to gain back the trust of the public, staff and the oireachtas.

    However, for some reason Bakhurst gave one member of his leadership team a promotion to "Deputy DG", while only removing one of the executive team (Collins) as 2 had already departed (O'Leary and Coveney), while its likely that Jennings is out sick for the foreseeable future.

    But Timmy believes that Bakhurst is in a much stronger position to drive change in the organisation. He fails to mention that he's headed off on holidays, has failed to hand over any new documentation to either the PAC or the Media Committee, citing the 4 reports that are being worked on and that they won't be ready until October at the earliest, seems to me that Bakhurst has already slowed everything down. But Timmy is willing to give him time.

    How much time? remember Dee Forbes was given 7 years (5 years and a 2 year extension) to get RTÉ working, the media had her in a honeymoon period for 7 full years, rarely asking hard questions about decisions made in the organisation regarding everything from programming and to the player. For example, from the outset of her tenure the media let the management team cut children's content by 75% without question, a decision made initially by the executive board over seen by Bakhurst as Deputy DG and Noel Curran as DG in 2016 and continued by Forbes.

    I heard few in the media calling out the Toy Show the Musical as a farce, they were worried in might have actually been a hit and just wanted to save face.

    No what we have in this article is the basic old Irish political adage of

    resign - marry - return

    and sure when you get back all will be good and forgotten.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    How long is Backhurst supposed to be on holidays for? Seriously, is he gone until September?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,219 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Waiting for NK to tell him when its safe to come back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If he is stupid he will return of the launch of the RTÉ New Season out in the RDS!


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭fplfan12345




  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    Kevin Bakhurst seems to be the wrong person to handle this crisis as he seems part of the problem that is the RTE hierarchy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I sincerely hope he's at his desk right now - if not that is taking the p*ss. Chairperson of those Oireachtas committees should reconvene and call him back to attend in person next week to deliver reports and explain himself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    No comparison needed at all. If that was Tubs Insta graphic... it speaks volumes in itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    It was, for a very long time. There’s this too:

    B061D5E6-46F6-4CE7-A436-86B4580E01DF.jpeg

    Pensive indeed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Jesus that Instatubridy thing is creepy s*!t!



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    The vanity is evident everywhere, the serious watercolour study to make him look “handsome and with gravitas”, the cartoon doodle making him look superior and important, the book filled with pictures on which his is a prominent columnist taking notes, the President of USA making the backdrop. It’s almost like a “Find Wally” book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭Higgins5473




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Orange-Coca-Cola


    Really and truly it does not look anything like him. I am glad that you posted before I did, as I could not help looking and squinting at it trying to get the similarity.

    This is from RSVP https://www.rsvplive.ie/news/rt-director-general-kevin-bakhurst-30473428

    "Mr. Bakhurst, who assumed his new position just last Monday, expressed the importance of taking a step back to carefully consider and decide upon a new contract for RTÉ's most prominent presenter. While acknowledging the urgency of the matter, he emphasised the need to avoid unnecessary delays and swiftly address the situation."

    He reiterates similar to that in the IT https://www.irishtimes.com/media/2023/07/15/kevin-bakhurst-to-contact-ryan-tubridy-for-discussion-on-future-with-rte/ and follows up saying that himself and Tubs will be away at the end of July.

    "Decision by end July

    Asked when the decision would be made, he replied that Tubridy was due to go on holiday and he himself was taking time off at the end of July and he wanted a decision before then."

    "He said to restore confidence, RTÉ had to “absolutely demonstrate” the organisation has changed."

    We are now the 2nd week into August and not one single thing has demonstrated that the organisation has changed. Bakhurst must be on at least week 3 of his holiday which should give us all some confidence that he will be fully rested and ready to take on the world. He has a lot of changes to make and surely we will see it all happening now when he comes back. Or will we be confronted with spin and how Tubs is needed and why the Barter account was also a necessity. I wonder if his first act will be again to go looking for money from the government. The latter seeming far more likely to me, enforcing any notions that rte would fail to make any changes.

    We are now almost 5 months from when Tubridy announced that he was to step down from TLLS. Which is when I believe that they knew they were going to have to answer some serious questions. They [RTE, NK and Tubs] then spent the following 3 months hiding as much as they could and getting their stories straight. A few heads have been moved around and took early retirement, but there has been zero repercussions for anyone. Effectively Tubs has taken a longer holiday than he would normally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭hawley


    D'Arcy swinging for Tubridy’s slot. It would suit him, plus the bonus of being finished for the day at ten o'clock. He's definitely not coming back for his old programme. No way D'Arcy would make these comments if there was even the slightest chance of him returning. No love lost between them.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    No love lost there for sure but isn't that just tabloid click bait?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Untitled Image

    @ButtersSuki It really is the classic case of a picture being worth a thousand words. This image should be Tubridy's epitaph.



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