Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Crosswinds are much less of an issue with today's jets - witness how rarely operations shift to 16/34 nowadays. The Iength of 10R/28L should not longer be an issue, were it not for the planning permission constraints applied to the North Runway for easterly ops in particular. That's not DAA's doing.

Is there an actual condition in the planning of north runway that’s states easterly operations aren’t allowed or should be minimal? That’s nearly an even more ridiculous condition than the night restriction.

Basically, you can have new runway which will cost 300 odd million but you can’t use it at night and can only use it in normal operations one direction, and you must reduce night flights off of the south runway. Lot to answer for there.

Thank you. Just read it. Says either 28L or R can be used for departures but 28L shall be the preferred for arrivals and 10R shall be the preferred for departures when easterly. So I suppose it’s not too limiting and both could be used if necessary, that’s from my interpretation of it. Could be wrong.

Would have also thought the residents of Malahide and Portmarnock wouldn’t be too bad for complaining due to the south runway heading passed them both previously, albeit nearly 2km more to the south, so they’d be somewhat used to it. Guess I’m wrong there 😂

05/23 and extended 11/29 would’ve been the best long term solution. With 16/34 in reserve.

T2 should’ve been put where the hangars/McDonald’s is on the exit road out of the airport; would’ve made for far easier taxiways to the runways.

But that would’ve made too much sense. Based Michael O’Leary warned the DAA it would be a disaster and he was right. Corballis House destroyed to build a terminal building on the wrong side of the airport is a key example of DAA inefficiency.

Keep hoping then!

What makes you think it’s sarcasm? I have already explained that 05/23 is more in line with the prevailing winds. I don’t expect it to be reopened anytime soon, but in the next 2-3 decades it should be looked at.

05/23 and the old 10/28 would have intersected. WHat do you think that would have done to capacity? Takeoffs from 23 and landings on 05 went right over Ballymun. A lot worse than a few hourse in open country NW of Dublin Airport.

CPO.

Future expansion should really happen in the airport midfield with underground transit similar to LHR, ATL, IAD etc.

I don't think DUB has the room for an AMS style U shaped agglomeration of terminals.

A CPO means compulsory purchase. It doesn't mean it would be demolished. I don't know if it has any preservation order. To be honest I'm surprised it's still open but happy it is. I'm sure any future expansion could be built around it anyway although it would almost definitely have to close to the public.

High Court proceedings began today: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/0808/1398762-daa-court/

Should we expect a result by end of week? Sorry edit to this, wouldn’t be too familiar with the courts myself.

they stay that has be granted means that the enforcement order is void until the high court review in November?

Would that be correct?

And if ABP come back in the meantime and grant Dublin the noise quota system rather than 65 limit between 11pm and 7am does the above get thrown out of court?

If ABP refuse the appeal, the planning condition that the enforcement order is under will cease to exist.

Residents may take a judicial review; realistically incinerating more money as it won't succeed.

Thanks all for the responses. I’d be confident in ABP granting the quota, if they have any sense.

however regarding the residents, I seen a go fund me online where they have raised over €100,000 to for legal matters against the daa. I was shocked they had raised so much. What a waste!!