Kilkenny GAA Thread

Davy always gives it everything, on the development squads he was always on the B team while a lot of the stars were on the A team not much sign of the stars now same as at club level too much made of the stars everything has to go through the top men, but the top men will more often than not let you down where as the hard grafter will always give you a 100% Davy would be in his mid twenty’s

Ah well you know what I mean but clubs also make bad investments in people who don’t give anything and ignore the grafters who you will have for life. And actually I heard this year that on one of the squads there should be 4 off of the A’s onto the B’s and vice versa club loyalty etc.

I think Fogarty was U21 last year, he played against the village last year from what I remember

Well said Grats

I was at the Walsh cup match last January in Rathdowney . Bill Sheehan was played but was replaced early.really as a poster alluded to earlier it’s like sending an Olympic 100m sprinter to the world crosscountry championships it’s just not going to work out. Common sense should prevail.

Unfortunately James Bond there’s a fair lot of truth in that but I think Bill Sheehan would be dedicated but you need your chances not on boggy ground where a lesser hurler would thrive.

Three of those, Kenny, O'Shea and Moore, were invited on the panel or left it at some stage. They may have a rethink.

And that's why I stated, rethink by the players you identified.

It all depends on what you base that view on. I can`t speak for fellas not making themselves available, but the impression I have is that the players like Lyng but that`s only half the battle. The great managers tend to rule with a combination of likeability and an iron fist which in turn engenders respect. They always picked a fight in the camp that only they were ever going to win. Cody did it, Alex Ferguson and Jack Charlton did it too.

If your view is based on what you have read dipping into this thread, well I wouldn`t pay much attention to that either. There`s a few regulars here who have for years been agitating for Brian Cody to step down. This was supposed to herald a new brand of man management, of smarter hurling and renewed successes.

Unfortunately, whatever way you look at it, and it is a results business after all , but we have taken a big step back from where we were at this point last year and there has been no renewal. It has been comical at times reading some of the commentary here about how Lyng was right to keep the old stagers on the panel when it was as obvious as the day is long that what we needed after Deegan`s goal was young, fast legs to either get us onto breaking ball or close down the opponent in possession.

He didn`t take his opportunity to make a clean sweep and now we are a year behind where we should be. There are bullets that need to be bitten this winter and probably a difficult campaign to be endured with a young team next year. Supporters might have been more forgiving if all that had happened this year.

I heard Michael Fennelly was going through a program with all the various development squads in Nowlan park this week, it covers a full day for each age group about health skills tactical play etc.seems to be the way to go. We have to start somewhere hopefully this is the start and if things go well success starts quickly enough from the bottom up.

Thanks guys especially 'Tibruit'. I get what your saying about 'carrot and stick' . Probably abit old school. Kiely is tough but he's an awful lot more carrot than Cody ever was. Bug of course he has natural born Killers in the likes of Hayes, Byrnes , O Donoghue...doesn't need to get the aggression cranked up. It's on 90 % already and the likes of Flanagan, Finn , Mike Casey...are good and tough.

I'd build a team around Cody up front and Mullins centre back. Reid nor Blanchfield nor Carey are centre backs...Blanchfield is too light for me for the centre. Good player though. Reid..too small and weak.

You wouldn’t say Blanchfield was too light if you met him in person…. he looks light from a distance because of his height. He’s actually quite a big lad physically.

Blanchfield is more or less the same height and weight as Diramuid Byrne’s so nothing wrong with him physically for sure.

No doubt he was a huge loss in the final and starting Wally meant three lines on the team had to be changed which in hindsight was a huge mistake.

Yeah we actually made three lines on the pitch and our bench weaker with one move. Corcoran , Buckley or Walsh should have started at 5.

Tullaroan boys must've been reading the thread after last weekend....