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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,943 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Out comes the desperate whataboutery to excuse your sharing those images.

    If you wanna play that game.

    So where does this twitter account expose abuse in Christian churches? Or any abuse from thay side of the culture wars?

    Well come on answer up.

    It doesnt does it?

    So either you are complicit in sharing images to give pedos their kicks or in exploiting child abuse for political advantage.

    Those are the only options.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Don't worry about my blood pressure, I'm not angry. When you share a video that doesn't even have a confirmed drag artists present, then it's propaganda and a blatant attempt to smear, demonise and scaremonger - so it will be called out as a politically motived hit-job. I literally shared evidence of US states trying to legislate off the back of this kind of paranoia stoked by that twitter account, so don't play innocent.

    When falsehood and fakery is used to enable discrimination - no, they don't have a right to freely express without consequence. Going double when the end result is still distributing child abuse - so I guess Musk isn't doing a good job stamping it out, despite noisy claims otherwise. But "twitter is better"?

    Not all drag artists are built upon sexuality or being sexually charged and frankly that's exactly the kind of vulgar reduction feeding into the pearl clutching;, this "save the children" hysteria is a cheap way to save face while you're tacitly justifying the views of the channel you shared. Stop digging.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 23,428 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Mod - Thread is going far off topic now, can we get back to Elon Musk's management of Twitter please?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Deleted after seeing mod instruction.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,550 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,667 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd say once he explains it to his parents, they'll be more disappointed that it's not porn.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60,613 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Your regularly scheduled programming of insecure billionaires returns.




  • Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Scipri0


    We don't need a generic fight, What we need is Mortal Kombat, Two ego driven useless ****, everyone going about their lives going to work to earn a wage, and then you have these out of touch freaks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I see a bad back in Musk’s near future.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭wench


    Someone's getting their excuses ready...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Now, this is the palace in Caesar's Square. Our commando unit will approach from Fish Street, under cover of night, and make our way to the northwestern main drain. If questioned, we are sewage workers on our way to a conference. Reg, our glorious leader and founder of the P.F.J., will be coordinating consultant at the drain head, though he himself will not be taking part in any terrorist action, as he has a bad back. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,550 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,117 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I don't fancy Elon's chances.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The world burns and two insecure billionaires who could right the world in a weekend publicly cockfight. How the F is everyone not a raging socialist kicking doors down when they read this kind of garbage?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Can't help but hope that their egos results in them flouting basic safety guidelines.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The blue tock responses underneath are incredible. All completely devoted fans begging him to put hos health first. Nit a single lol in it. It's like it's a different Internet. Somehow even worse than the last one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,631 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users Posts: 28,969 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Beats paying tax I suppose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,969 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users Posts: 29,943 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I will gladly donate for any blow landed...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Deleted



  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    I'm liking this new "X" thing... seems more sleek and stylish tbh.

    The blue bird was more of a child-like immature symbol really. Something a spotty teen would think up to name their social media platform.

    It seems more appropriate for a platform that is used by professional entities/industries. I don't really see what all the fuss was about tbh, if you take away people's personal bias against Musk, it's actually quite a sensible change.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,943 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The platform was called Twitter. The posts were called Tweets. Twitter \ to tweet entered common parlance.

    Birds tweet so the logo was a bird.

    But apparently, only a spotty teen could have come up with it.

    Whereas X online has many many uses, from xBox to XXX meaning adult content. It is so vague \ non specific as to be meaningless.

    This is all so incredibly obvious it is amazing it has to be spelled out to you.

    Find us any serious commentators who think Twitter's money issues were down to its name.

    But sure, it's all about personal bias against Musk. That's why advertisers are deserting the platform, and X ain't going to change that - if anything accelerate it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Kevrano


    Are you trying to be funny? Musk's changes have meant you can no longer tell if you're engaging with said professional entities/industries or some chancer who claims to be someone or something else.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    X is a clumsy single-word company name that has required most articles to continuously add the caveat that this is the new name for Twitter; while it's just as arguable that 'X' is a childish moniker beloved of wannabe edgy kids from the 2000s so swings and roundabouts. We now know Musk wanted to change PayPal to X back in the day so this all smells like some tedious F You to Peter Thiel. Very little in the English language uses a single character, it's naturally clumsy.

    Coca-Cola sounds pretty stupid when you say it out loud, dispassionately, but you'd wanna take a severe bit of brain damage to think they should ever rename the thing. Whether you liked the name or not was immaterial: "Twitter" was a massively recognisiable, global brand that had amassed status because of / despite of the branding. Changing it to a film classification or one-third of a Vin Diesel film franchise nobody remembers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,667 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Leaving aside personal bias against Musk, the issue is that regardless of its origins, the lexicon and branding of Twitter (Twitter, Tweet, Retweet, Quote Tweet, the birdhouse logo for Home and even just the logo itself) is the type of brand recognition that is next to impossible to buy. The actual blue bird evolved over time from something fairly cartoonish to something very slick and simple.

    Twitter had one of the most recognisable brands in the world and in social media. "Tweet" essentially became both a noun and a verb.

    Changing to 'X'... it means nothing. In common parlance it's often just used as a placeholder. "Tweet" has been changed to "Post", which is used everywhere and is no longer unique to the branding of the site. The logo is literally a base level monotype X which can't even be copyrighted.

    The entire recognisable branding which took 15+ years to build up was removed and replaced with something so generic, uniform and bland. Professional Entities/Industries already used Twitter, and for more professional things I guess used LinkedIn. But the target audience of the platform wasn't Professional Entities/Industries, it's the general public, because it's the general public that those professional entities/industries want to be able to reach.

    Twitter had an identity and the branding made sense; its icon was a bird, birds tweet, the home icon was a birdhouse, "Tweet us at..." literally meant "Communicate with us at...", and everyone knew it meant Twitter. 'X' has no real identity. It doesn't mean anything. You no longer Tweet, you Post, you don't Retweet, you Repost.

    It's an absolutely horrible branding decision, because a lot of Twitter's actual value was its inherent brand recognition and identity.



  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    I like it...

    I think it's more cool and sophisticated than a silly little blue bird.

    I can't see the name change presenting any significant issues to the functioning of the platform, so I don't know what all the fuss is about tbh.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Because it's an interesting subject, as not many of the world's biggest brands go through a gigantic change just 'cos the boss said-so. It's the Current Affairs forum, and this is a current affair.

    And just from a reputational point of view, it's another drip of unreliability. I've seen no widespread uptick in use of X, not without that caveat as said.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,481 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's got nothing to do with "function" and everything to do with taking the last thing of value in the company - Its brand awareness and flushing that away.

    X is a stupid name because by its nature "X" means unknown or unclear.

    Or Porn , it mostly means porn now.

    Twitter , Tweets , re-tweets - As silly as they might originally have been have become synonymous with the company and are universally known and used as verbs .

    That is brand awareness that you simply cannot buy and Musk has decided to just bin it all in the vague hopes that the name he has been trying to give to a company for 20 years finally takes hold.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,667 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Had he simply changed the icon to a T (one that was specifically designed so it could be copyrighted) and kept the rest of the branding and naming system the same, I don't think there'd be any issue. It still wouldn't make a lot of sense given the recognition of the existing bird symbol, but it wouldn't have mattered too much.

    Either way it won't cause issues relating the functioning of the website, but again, in terms of marketing and brand recognition, it's just a horrible decision. Likewise if Musk had never bought Twitter and Twitter itself decided to rebrand to 'X', it'd be a horrible decision, or if Musk decided to change the branding of Tesla to 'X', it'd be a horrible decision.

    Proper recognisable and bespoke branding can take years to form, and often through trial and error and just evolution of what ideas work. Twitter had branding which worked. You may not have liked the blue bird, but when even people who don't use Twitter saw it, they knew what it was. X is so generic and bland that it's often literally used to mean "Undefined".



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