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  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    The Shah is a major example of someone being better than what came after him .... as we speak Iran is probably the second worst regime in the world ... only Afghanistan is worse ... and the Shah's reign now looks like the golden age of modern Iran ...the current ultra hardline Iranian government that took office in 2021 is by far the worst Iranian government of all time ... and created due to Trump's sanctions/leaving the JCPOA ... in turn this government will neither moderate its stifling laws or engage with the rest of the world to improve the economy ... thus assuring social and economic reform are not possible until this regime is gone ...

    Shah Reza Pahlavi III would be a much better leader hands down than the guy who prob currently rules, or, ruins Iran who is Mojtaba Khamenei the son of the current ailing leader ... Khmanenei II seems to have a more oppressive and mean streak than even his father ... typical of someone handed power on a plate ... I feel the Iranian people need to get rid of this nightmare regime now ...

    Saddam was sort of a Shah meets Napoleon meet Hitler ... Saddam's warmongering made him too many enemies ... and 9/11 sealed his fate even though he had nothing to do with it ... but Americans wanted someone's head for it and thus the war started .. we all know now this war was a mistake but back then Saddam was regarded as a mega villain with armies of terrorists waiting for his order ... and the US govt did not do anything to discourage this myth ...

    True a major mistake in US wars was not cooperating with some from within the regime ... today it is clear something needs to be done about both Iran's Khamenei/Paydari regime and Putin .... the latter is off limits for a war in obvious terms ... but could something be done to help Iran's opposition more and perhaps inspire Russians to do same?? ... Now moderates within Iran's government need to be reached out to .... Trump messed up things with the moderates in the 2013-2021 admin ... but Trump a hardliner himself had no interest in talking to Iran's moderates ... today Mohammed Bajer Qalibaf is one of the more moderate members of the current system ... I'd say a lot of people like him would be glad to see the back of the Khamenei family ... whatever whoever they need to be included in a post Khamenei Iran and all parties bar Paydari/other hardlners I feel should be part of a new Iran .... where a culture of respect and tolerance replaces the current negative confrontational policies ... also professionals who can rise above ideology are needed ... I feel the Khameneis and their Paydari pals cannot change to form positive relationships with the world and end compulsory Hijab even if they wanted to .... they don't know how ... and therefore have failed Iran and its people ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    Fixed that for ya..

    The Shah is a major example of someone being better than what came after him .... as we speak Iran is probably the second third worst regime in the world ... only Russia and Afghanistan is worse ... and the Shah's reign now looks like the golden age of modern Iran ...the current ultra hardline Iranian government that took office in 2021 is by far the worst Iranian government of all time but still nowhere near as bad as Russia ...bla bla...



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭zv2


    Exactly what Gary Kasparov said about the west treating Putin like a politician. He said we should see him not as a politician but as a gangster.

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Another "double tap" hit on residential buildings in Ukraine. Part of a long list of similar war crimes by Russia, starting in Syria.

    I hope the ICC prosecutors are putting the relevant military people on their lists.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    the current ultra hardline Iranian government that took office in 2021 is by far the worst Iranian government of all time ... and created due to Trump's sanctions/leaving the JCPOA 

    ^^Would not have agreed (at the time) with the US policy of scrapping the nuclear agreement with Iran (JCPOA). In hindsight, it was probably correct.

    Europe (EU) tried really, really hard to keep that agreement going in the face of wrecking by Trump and didn't implement the sanctions on Iran.

    For that "we" got laughed at and bent over + f-cked by Iran (they were able to use the income/economic help to progress their drone programme, and are now helping Russia rain hundreds of these Shahed drones down on Ukraine's cities...).

    Seems like trying to "deal" with regimes like the Iranian one is just a mug's game [and the EU/Europeans were the mug + got taken for a ride by Iran].



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Russia just wants the uranium and any instability is a bonus for them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Maybe if Russia weren't sending working class men to die in Ukraine they wouldn't have to fill these factories with underskilled migrants.

    In real terms does a falling ruble mean it's more expensive for Russia to buy things from outside Russia?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Maybe if Russia weren't sending working class men to die in Ukraine they wouldn't have to fill these factories with underskilled migrants.

    Unskilled migrants are the backbone of a huge amount of factories here in Ireland but we're not sending men off to war. Russia was doing this well before the war, their national workforce isn't made up of Flintstones.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Between conscription and the amount of people who have fled the country there has to be big gaps to be filled in factories etc.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    What are you basing that off?

    Russia has relied on a migrant workforce doing the **** for a long time now. There are plenty of gaps to fill but assuming that migrants are filling the factory floor in place of conscripted Russians is nonsense. Russia had a higher migrant workforce before the war.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Top of the list when there are any discussions about discussions.... Sanction's must go, first!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Exchange rates have little bearing on reality since central banks on both sides can manipulate the value of their currency.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    3 months ago or so, there were official complaints made by the Duma about the labour shortages, coming at a time when they had been ordered to increase production. The mobilization was given as the main reason. I think that the response was to get the staff to work harder, and for longer hours. Production targets must be increased and met...or else!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭zv2


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Virgil°



    Good balanced article there from Time and some ISW folks which doesn't quite fit the whole "counter offensive is a failure" narrative that the misery mongers round here love.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    There was a story going the rounds after the Shah had departed, and Khomeini had arrived. It quickly became apparent that on second thoughts, he was not the right choice ( understatement of the year back then) but was possibly the worst choice that they could have made. So discreet enquiries were made to the Israelis about what options would be available if they wished to correct the mistake they had made, and could they help?. They were told basically that they had made their own bed,and now could lie on it, because under no circumstances would Israel ever condone, never mind act on such a disgraceful suggestion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I feel that no deal should be made with the 2021-date regime ... they are hardliners who are a product of Trump's withdrawal from the deal ... Hassan Rouhani was more moderate ... perhaps reaching out to moderates would have seen the gradually diminishing of the Khamenei/Paydari cult but withdrawal only played into their hands ....

    All this inconsistent policy coming from the US has doomed moderates in Iran and emboldend hardliners ... then again the likes of Trump and his hardliners do not want moderates ... I always believe all these far right entities help each other .... Putin is behind Trump and behind Paydari too ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,669 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    To be taken with a pinch of salt for now but lots of chatter that compulsory evacuations are being prepared for the city of Kupiansk in Kharkiv. This comes after the AFU reported a "difficult situation" earlier confronting advancing Russian troops.

    Some reports that Russian troops are now less than 5 miles away.

    Another Bahkmut?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Cosmopolitan Russians resigned to the fact that they are now "North Koreans" on the world stage.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Could be the answer to 'Russian weak spot that Ukraine could target to cripple their efforts?' Optics factory.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Yes, that is a good point about Trump's actions (pulling out of the deal, assassinating Soleimani) cutting the ground from under moderates (in Iran).

    Unfortunately the US is now very polarised and this is touching all aspects of politics, so there will be reduced consistency from them.

    Unlike the post WW2 period, the 2 parties are in my opinion heading towards having incompatible foreign policies in many areas, which will create even more chaos if/when the Republicans take the presidency again (e.g. as gets discussed here sometimes, the US military aid to Ukraine will probably be greatly reduced + US engagement + interest in NATO and what is happening in Europe will wane again).

    Anyway, with Iran's current rulers the relationship with the Russians [and poking the US in the eye, as they see it] is much more important to them than their relationship with the EU/Europe [we're just "collateral damage", like Ukraine is I think]. Really the EU may as well forget the "deal" & just mirror the US sanctions fully now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,072 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    They can, relevant to domestic economy but comes unstuck when they must invariably interface with other currencies for import/ export. Crushing the Russian currency and economy is a very powerful tool in the hands of Ukraine's supporters.

    It means taking pain and increasing inflation for us, but it can be done.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Maybe it is, but for sure since soviet / communist times, Russians have developed it to a fine art...maybe Nth Korea. And its alive and well to this day in Russia and in the Republics. Old habits die hard.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,743 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre



    Prigozhin is some piece of work . Hopefully some day karma will catch up with him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,930 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Another day, another group of Russian soldiers complaining about not being paid




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    It’s time they woke up and realised that they were sent to Ukraine to die, and not get paid or family compensated for it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭wassie


    Russian government of releasing hardcore criminals early to go fight with mercenaries committing war crimes and then allowing them back into society after their 'tour' is completed.

    What could go wrong?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭rogber




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  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Serves ye right u brain dead zombie

    Belarusian voted 2/3 years ago for democracy barely a peep out of them now.

    Ukrainians fighting to the last man when they win will be a force to be reckoned with, hope they get their children back and avenge all who participated in Russia's evil brutality.

    Post edited by dennis72 on


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