This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

I’m not really talking about the prices - that’s just market economics.

I'm more referring to the fact that if I want a 2nd hand €25-40k EV, 2-4yo, with a warranty, I can go to a main dealer.

in the case of Tesla, that’s not the case, nor will it potentially ever be the case in future.

You buy new and you f-off :)

It’s easy to tout the MY being the single biggest selling model in the world this year, but in 2-3 years time tesla won’t want one of their own cars back, but e.g. the local kia garage with an offer on a new ev6, will take it.

Is there as much incentive to trade in for a new Tesla as other cars? They keep the software updates rolling out so is there really much difference between a 2020 and 2023 Model 3 that makes it worth upgrading

I get that some folks probably trade from Model 3 to Y for the bigger space, but I don't see much reason to trade beyond that

I do agree that their sales model is heavily dependent on selling new cars and is geared more towards market share expansion than maintaining their current share. That'll probably change in time but the question is when, is it gonna be 3 years or 10 years from now

Not badly priced for a big battery sportline model. Low miles and 21” upgrade alloys. Must be a saving somewhere on importing one of these. https://www.donedeal.ie/view/34808447 Skoda Enyaq IV 80 Sportline

Tesla don't care about your car when you leave. I would think there isn't a great deal of profit for them to start taking trade ins. Buy the car, touch up any dings or marks. Take the scuffs from the alloys. Fix any trim or plastics then give it a valet. Then it sits in a lot somewhere and you have to advertise it online and hope for a buyer. Plus the fact you've to employ someone to do all that and take care of the sale.

Easier to have a website where you the punter decide what you want, spec it up and click to purchase.

Tesla are a technology company. You don't see Apple taking trade ins. They want you as a repeat customer buying new.

Wow!! Wasn't aware of that cause I'm an android fanboy 😂

That's what will happen. Somebody will become a Tesla specialist second hand retailer. Tesla aren't interested in doing it.

There are actually so many Model 3 Teslas on done deal. They all seem to be around the same price 38k or so. It's hard to know what value these cars are actually worth at the moment.

Well I can tell what they aren’t worth - and that’s €38k.

saw a €30k one pop up on carzone yesterday, a dealer with a 192. Still too much for a 4yo car that’s €41k new, but things are definitely resetting.

my neighbour paid €39k from a vw main dealer recently for a 221 ID4 77kw with less than 10,000km. There’s value in the 2nd hand market, but only where there was volume of new sales 2-3 years ago.

it’ll take another year or so for tesla prices to reflect reality - there’s only 40 m3’s for sale on carzone today, and almost 300 ID4’s.

the M3 has never been a volume seller in Ireland, much to everyone’s surprise I think. Until this year, it was around the top 25-35 best selling models.

when this years sales hit the 2nd hand market, we should start seeing far more volume and therefore lower prices due to the choice.

Difficult to become a 2nd hand Tesla specialist when they don't share any spare parts sales, vehicle specifications etc with third parties - virtually impossible to run repairs on them so no way you could run a business based on that, e.g how can you as a business offer a 12 month warranty on a car you cannot repair.

Sorry if this is a silly question - but I tuned off Model S / Model 3 discussion a while back when I settled for an ICE estate, and there were no electric estate cars at the time. However the situation is changing and I am starting to get more interested in this topic and 5 seats with plenty of space is probably my only requirement now (doesn't necessarily have to be an estate).

Assuming the used e-car prices continues to drop, if you were to pick between a decent 2016-2020 Model S and a decent 2019-2021 Model 3 at the same price (say around 20-25k), what would you go for? In other words, has there been so much technical innovation and/or software updates (that somehow Model S wouldn't get) from Tesla to make a compelling case for newer car over bigger older car?

Of course other models are also in my radar - but just curious about these two given the recent discussion and how Model 3 2024 is supposedly so much better and probably cheaper.. looks like everything is changing rapidly (and I am loving it).

Yeah just hit the star symbol beside the thread title 😁

I'm considering doing something similar

I tried with post #7181 but got nowhere. 😂

I don’t know much about Leafs but it could take most of a day to get this from say Galway to Dublin unless you could trailer it.

I think the comment was actually directed at the rather robust debate going on around Tesla's policy on trade ins

I'd say your question was absolutely valid regarding the Model S Vs Model 3

And that Leaf is certainly a bargain for anyone looking for a local runabout

According to ABRP you'd need 6 charging stops of around 10 mins each, about 4.5 to 5 hours total