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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,557 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    So far the response from RTE is to commission reports but not publish them which is a standard delaying tactic, delay making decisions on Tubridy until things quieten down, postpone the register of interests because of GDPR and delay giving information to Oireachtas committees. Delay and deflect. They will never change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Well I’d argue taking his holidays a wet week into the job was a monumental mistake. He should have cancelled them - as would be the norm for any CEO in the private sector in the middle of a major scandal.

    Why he would have committed to start at the appointed date and have holidays booked so close to that date in itself raises questions about his judgement. He should have/could have taken his holidays before starting and arranged the dates accordingly do that he left one job, took his holidays, and started the next - which is not unusual by any means. To do it like he did it does not exactly instill confidence in his time management or organisational skills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,756 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I felt at the time he had no intention of sticking to that. He wanted more time to pass hoping public anger would abate and other news items would exercise people before bringing Ryan back. When he brings Ryan back he should put him on for an hour at night , say 12-1 am. We will see then if it's down to the talent or if it's due to the time slot whether people listen in great numbers or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Butson


    Didn't he go on holidays two weeks after starting? Tells you everything you need to know about both him and that circus of an organisation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭head82


    Tubridys ego wouldn't allow him to take a graveyard RTE slot. It would basically mean him accepting crumbs from the table after being the broadcasters highest paid earner. He's just not that humble. Any time slot other than his original 9-10am (which is essentially just filler /background noise between the flagship news programme and Claire Byrnes current affairs show) or other prime slot, would be a 'no,no!' in his eyes.

    If Paddy Power was giving odds on the likelihood of his return ( a little surprised PP isn't running a book on this), I would confidently slap down a wad on 'NOT RETURNING'.

    He's not coming back.. HE CAN'T COME BACK!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Tell it to me arse


    He could do some work on bringing Lyric Fm evening slot 7-9 out of the doldrums of obscure alternative pipe music and reggae and bring in some contemporary jazz or classic jazz big band.

    He fancies himself as a connoisseur of entertainment that big band era with Fred Astaire would suit his entertainer persona down to the ground.

    He will never do it but he sealed his own coffin the day he turned his gigs into a strictly work sphere. There was no human element to his persona and it was wooden without any relatable context from his own life experiences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭jmcc


    There could even be a novelty effect where people listen to Callanan and Courtney to check if there's any improvement and this could see an increase in the audience figures. That would make things worse for Tubridy.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,073 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    The 7-9 slot on Lyric is John Kelly and he has built up a loyal following.

    RT does NOT have the vast knowledge and expertise that John Kelly has.

    So, that’s a no go.

    At a stretch - Maybe RT could do the Sunday afternoon big band jazz slot that auld uncle Gaybo used to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It one of the top programmes for RTÉ at about 250,000 viewers, if anything it needs to go out 5 nights and stop the repetition of reports.

    Yeah we believe you ... :) ... but even as a non regular viewer I guess you notice the repeat news item on a regular basis not just in august.

    You could swap Marty in the Morning with The Full Irish and put Marty on Radio 1 9 to 10.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It seems to me that RTÉ don't really understand the normal person absolute dislike for the service that the have provided over the last 60 odd years.

    I grew up with just RTÉ One and Network 2, and even back then RTÉ were providing more content across those 2 services than they are currently and even then many were unimpressed by the line up of local shows on RTÉ. The intro of Network 2 was welcome from the dire RTÉ2.

    It did improve from the late 1990s into the early 2000s, mainly brought on by TV3's entry into the market but also IMO so not to look bad against TnaG/TG4. N2 again had some innovation during this period.

    But even the small things that RTÉ do well doesn't out weight the general populations displeasure and dislike for service provided.

    RTÉ seem bound to ignore their audience.

    A good 2 months in and nothing has changed for the audience and nothing has change substantial for them over the last decade.

    From increased repeats to the busman's holidays in RTÉ. Regular transmissions shall ceases and you should all be happy with what you've got, until the autumn, Oiche Mhaith


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,436 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The scheduling I find especially stupid is repeating an RTE show in a similar primetime timeslot!

    If you've aired Neven Maguire in X at 8pm, don't repeat it again between 8-9pm. Repeat it at weekend lunchtime, or weekday afternoon.

    Just lazy stuff not even trying.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Tell it to me arse


    I don’t know about you but when I turn that on the winter nights I make haste to change the channel immediately. Its deeply depressing. It’s aeons away from the type of music classical music listeners like my missus like. It’s insanely bad. What are his figures and what is the target audience? Certainly not classical musicians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Bring back the lovely Mary Kennedy.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,073 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    As much as I love classical, Lyric has a wider remit and JK’s show falls under that -



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭jmcc


    There's another story that shows that the institutionalised deadwood problem in RTE has been going on for much longer. When John Lennon (a member of the Beatles) was shot in December 1980, an Irish guy (I think that he was a journalist) was an eyewitness and he phoned RTE. RTE said that one of its own would take care of it the next day.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    We are in an era when we have to tell people who John Lennon was!


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The problem for Tubridy is that John Kelly knows and Gaybo knew their subjects. It isn't an act like Tubridy's young fogey act.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Yep. And even in the Tubridy era, the people from the IMF were walking down the street in Dublin and RTE had two dumb and dumber FF ministers claiming that there was no bailout. All the other channels were covering the IMF story with live video feeds. Would Tubridy have even got a place in RTE without his family connection to the former DG?

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They did this with there SAS show, shown at 9:30 Monday with a repeat at 10:30 on Tuesday. RTÉ2 +25!


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    I would think the drop in numbers paying the licence fee is a problem for Ryan Tubridy. If he's brought back there will be a cohort who are disgruntled and will be less likely to keep paying. I had thought he would be back, he didn't really do anything wrong except for allowing people to believe he was taking a pay cut, more of a sin of omission than anything; but I think it'd be very risky for RTE to reintroduce him now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    He fancies himself as a lot of things but is let down if even trivial overview is done because he's actually a clueless pseudo intellectual moron.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,557 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Except Gaybo had knowledge and a liking for Jazz, so that's a no go either.

    At a stretch he could do the paper reading on Morning Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭hawley


    It wasn't an omission. He told the media that he willingly took a pay cut and that really believes in Rte. He also said that he was always willing to take pay cuts. He was actually one of the last, along with Gerry Ryan, to accept a cut in 2009. It had to be dragged out of him on that occasion. He was ambushed about it after his radio show, by an Rte news crew, in 2009 and his behavior is quite menacing towards the interviewer.

    I honestly believe that he was taken in by the likes of Gerry Ryan and Noel Kelly. He hadn't the wit to realize how lucky he was. Just always wanted more and more. One thing I've always thought about Tubridy, is the fact that he doesn't come across as being in any way curious or even intelligent. I cannot ever remember thinking that he came up with an interesting question or angle in an interview.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,557 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    From memory Gaybo had himself and a producer for that show. If it was Tubridy presenting a similar show, he'd need a team of producers and researchers. Likewise if he was presenting something like Late Date.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,073 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Exactly.

    To use a restaurant scenario, Gaybo was like a multi Michelin star chef who drew crowds to the restaurant.

    Tubridy is like the gobshite meet and greeter waiter at the front door who annoys everyone and gets the orders all wrong - then blames everyone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭jmcc



    There's a good word that describes him and those like him: "midwit". He's slightly smarter than average but not by much. That would easily describe a lot of the media too. The "intellectual" angle seems to be one that Tubridy and others cultivate in that they like to be thought of as such but there's no real evidence for it. His books are hardly great works. Looking at the front cover of "The Irish are coming" book shows a boat with a pictures of a pile of famous Irish people with Terry Wogan at the bow and Tubridy at the stern. Tubridy is very much a village celebrity. Those others generally became successes outside of the Dublin media village and outside of RTE. I think the book was focused on the UK and Tubridy may have been trying to break into the UK media scene. He's no Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews or Graham Norton.

    Tubridy seems to have succeeded with pushing that image purely based on a very effective PR machine rather than any great intellectual works. The ease with which he could be replaced by Callanan or Courtney shows how deeply RTE bought into the idea that he is indispensable.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭ Enrique Flaky Sonar


    They can only delay and deflect for a while this time though. The checkmate move will be the probable continued drop in license fee income going forward. Somebody somewhere will have to act to clear up this whole sorry mess at some stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The licence fee problem could end up taking out Tubridy and Bakhurst if it develops into a general protest. The latest figures for the first week of August show the licence fee sales are down almost 40%. (Ironically, the percenage of the audience of the Gerry Ryan show that Tubridy lost when RTE installed him there.)

    Regards...jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Let's take a little look back over the shoulder at 2009.

    Firstly from the IT on 30/12/2009. Ichabod couldn't take a pay cut for "legal reasons". Sounding a bit like Biggins, late of this parish, he later recanted, advising that his "legal position" had changed. The quote in bold below is somewhat bewildering. Anyone?

    "LATE LATE Show presenter Ryan Tubridy has said he dealt "appropriately" with requests for a pay cut because of the financial situation at RTÉ.

    Tubridy was one of a number of RTÉ’s top-paid presenters who was initially reluctant to take a voluntary 10 per cent pay cut when requested by RTÉ management.

    He cited legal reasons for his refusal to do so, but instead, he offered to make a substantial donation to charity. In March he said his legal situation had been resolved and he took the cut.

    On RTÉ’s News at One programme, yesterday, Tubridy said he made that donation, took the 10 per cent cut and has since taken another one. “That was dealt with appropriately,” he said.

    Tubridy was RTÉ’s fourth best-paid presenter in 2008, the last year for which figures are available. He earned €533,333 in that year, a nearly 50 per cent increase on his 2007 earnings of €366,867.

    He said people were “100 per cent entitled” to look at the salaries of RTÉ’s top-paid presenters given the state of the economy and the levels of unemployment at the moment.

    “One of the saddest things I saw this year was that moment in Waterford Crystal when there was a scuffle and somebody hit the glass door and fell down and, for some reason, that encapsulated where this country was going economically,” he said.

    “I see people walking around this town, perfectly well kitted out. They have no work, they have nowhere to go. People are angry and upset. I totally understand that.”

    When asked if he was paid too much, Tubridy responded: “I am paid what is negotiated for me. In that case, they deem it fit to pay me that and that is what happens.”

    Earlier that year, in the Mirror (on February 3rd), the mood in Montrose was somewhat more militant. Note Gerry Ryan's comments now with the benefit of hindsight...

    "TOP RTE star Ryan Tubridy last night revealed he will not be taking a pay cut for "personal, legal reasons".

    The broadcaster broke his silence and revealed in a statement that he will not be accepting a 10 per cent cut from his EUR346,000 salary.

    The statement read: "Like everyone else in this country, I have been watching the ongoing economic situation closely.

    "Due to personal, legal reasons, I have been advised that a pay cut is not an option for me at this time."

    But the RTE Radio 1 presenter revealed he will be giving money to charity, adding: "Despite this, I am making a significant donation to St Vincent de Paul, a charity that could probably do with our help now more than ever."

    Tubridy, 35, had joined forces with fellow RTE top dogs.

    Gerry Ryan and Pat Kenny have also refused to take a salary hit to save the cash-strapped station.

    Despite coming under fire from the public - 87 per cent of people have demanded they take a cut - the trio are sticking to their guns.

    Kenny and Ryan used their programmes last week to defend their salaries, which are paid by a combination of licence fees and advertising.

    Kenny, whose company Pat Kenny Media Ser vices Limited, claimed on his radio show last week that he is "probably supporting several public servants in their jobs". Ryan described calls for a cut as "bulls**t".

    He told his listeners last week: "Sorry, have I missed something? Are people in RTE other than senior management taking cuts in wages? . . . It isn't happening. Unions, just like the unions in the public sector, will not allow that."

    He added: "I'll get together with Ryan Tubridy and Pat Kenny and the others, and jaysus, we will come up with something."

    Marian Finucane, Joe Duffy, Derek Mooney, Miriam O'Callaghan and Eamon Dunphy have all accpted a 10 per cent pay cut.

    Tubridy's statement will now put more pressure on Ryan and Kenny to take some form of action.

    Despite this, I am making a significant donation to SVP."

    RTE reported a final capitulation in March. At that stage Gee Ryan was the last to hold out. Bills to pay, you know yourself, listeners.

    "RTÉ presenter Ryan Tubridy has announced that he will take a 10% pay cut.

    In a statement, Mr Tubridy said until now, he had not been in a position to take a pay cut, but that his legal situation had changed in recent days.

    The move comes two days after RTÉ Director General Cathal Goan announced the national broadcaster had proposed pay cuts for its 2,300 staff.

    He said the cuts would be as fair as possible, with those who earn more giving more.

    RTÉ is currently forecasting a shortfall of approximately €68 million or 15% in total revenue for 2009."



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