BYD Atto3

Yes but that's not a direct competitor to the BYD Atto 3. The Tesla Y would be its competitor, so what is the frumpy looking cheapest Tesla Y priced at?

Well then with a Model Y Tesla being 46k the BYD starts to look like very good value indeed.

I read it wrong I thought the standard autopilot stuff was part of the enhanced autopilot package.

Not a lot between them at all. I see reports that the Model Y built in Germany is using BYD batteries too. Likely the blade technology the atto uses.

Man the Y boot is huge

2000l when you fold the seats, chargers way faster too, 25mins vs 45 mins 10 - 80% and the 0-100km/h is a bit misleading as the Atto3 200bhp motor really starts to run out of puff big time after 120km/h, it tops out at 160km/h vs Tesla Y 220km/h top speed, the rolling overtaking test 80-120km/h tells the true picture 4.1s vs 5.2s in Y favour

The boot space in a Model Y is really big but that comparison listed earlier is wrong as it isn't a like for like comparison. The seats up part.

The boot in that is measured to the roof and not to the parcel shelf which is the normal way to do it.

Even including dealer fees the Atto 3 is a good alternative to a M3SR or even more expensive MY depending on your criteria and budget. Compared to the M3SR, the Atto 3 has more usable space/easy access boot because of the hatch, better foot room for rear passengers, easier to get in/out as its a crossover, more reliable radar cruise control, 360 camera, parking sensors, rain sensor, 150kw DC charging speed is decent, blindspot monitoring, better vehicle warranty, android auto/CarPlay, has a drivers display, I don't know how well the lane keep assist performs in all conditions in the BYD but at least you don't have to re-engage it every time you change lanes unlike Tesla basic Autopilot.

In that comparison of the MY, Tesla manipulated the the real boot capacity by omitting the parcel shelf, yes it's still larger due to the underfloor storage and length. I haven't been able to find any info on the real capacity of the MY's boot yet. I don't count the blind spot camera as a good feature in Teslas. It's only really active when indicating and it takes your vision off the road to look at it clearly. With the blindspot monitoring it's always active and you can see it from your peripheral vision before you indicate, much more useful and safe imo. The auto park stuff doesn't work in new Teslas anymore thanks to TeslaVision and lack of sensors and probably will never work properly because of the limitations of cameras, especially when dirty. But even if it did work, EAP is a €3800 optional extra so it's not a fair comparison.

The Teslas have more performance, better UI/app, better sound amongst other things, but the Atto is it's own positives too.

Why would you hate it? It so much nicer than all or most of the other dull dark interiors out there. Look at the MG4 for instance all black and dull the same with VWs and many other cars too although the ORA Funky Cat has a nice bright interior. Has anyone seen one of them on the roads yet? The BYDs interior is supposed to have a chemical smell anyway according to Autocar. Whether that is true or not I do not know.

It is risky, but I like it.

I was in a Tesla model Y a few weeks ago and was struck by how boring everything was. I know everything about a Tesla is in the software. But still it could look a bit more like a 50k car.

Had one as a rental for 3 days in Germany there last week. Was really comfortable to drive, and was easier to maneuver around tight spaces than my ioniq5.

Efficiency was pretty decent as well, I did about 20min on the autobahn twice a day each day, I wasn't holding back the horses' and only had to charge the battery once (got stung for 40quid at a shell station for it). Didn't really use the inbuilt software, wireless android auto was a nice surprise. Build quality seemed really decent, I didn't hear a rattle or a squeak from it in the 3 days. Really solid on the road, had a couple of thunder showers on the autobahn which it handled like a champ.

I wasn't a fan of the design of the interior from the pictures, wasn't sure about it for the first day but after that I didn't mind it. I ended up loving the gear selector.

In the end I was sad dropping it back, twas a nice thing to drive for a few days. I wouldn't trade the ioniq for one, and I'd not pay what they're asking for simply because it feels I'd just be rewarding the dealer's greed. But based on that I'd be happy to look at BYD in the future.

I drove mine Dublin to Galway on motorway last weekend. I can confirm that the active cruise control and lane keeping worked fine at motorway speeds, aside from when lane markings disappeared for some reason it drove itself down on the motorway. I didn't try it in city traffic but i expect it would be fine there too tbh. It does complain if you take your hands off the wheel, or even hold the wheel at the bottom, it must have sensors to pick up whether you are holding it.