What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

That isn't really the win that the Trump fans think it is.

And under Irish law it would be rape.

So there we have it.

Trump is a rapist.

Incredible the hills some people pick to fight and lose on.

It's funny how all these non fans of Trump spend pages and pages being...fans of Trump.

In the real world, prosecuters looking for trial to start on Jan 2nd 2024 in the attempt to defraud the voters cases.

Digital penetration(fingers) versus his penis, it wasn't clear to Carroll which so under New York law, only the latter is rape.

Anyhoo, in news that matters...

Trump literally incited a group of people to storm the U.S. Capitol. He's under several federal indictments. He's been found liable for violating a woman. He's on tape trying to convince the Georgia SoS to somehow come up with more votes for him, even though there was no credible evidence of electoral fraud. He's on tape admitting that he couldn't declassify those documents, but still wanted to show them off (not to mention trying to avoid giving them back). I mean, I could go on and on, here, but I'll try to just keep it to a few of the highlights which are jumping out at me at this point in time.

Remember when U.S. politicians used to be normal? Or at least normal enough that any one of the above would be an unquestioned career-ender, and both parties could agree that this kind of behaviour was completely unacceptable?

People who are pushing back on the rape claim - even allowing that, it obviously does not anywhere near rehabilitate his character to where he has any kind of business being an elected official. Then again, maybe it's time that America admits that their politics has become so performative and oppositional that Trump actually kind of is the perfect representation of around one half of their electorate (including nose holders who are still voting for him).

The great value of Trump, really, is how much he upsets the other side. I'm perfectly happy to admit that when Trump was first elected, I thought it was a good laugh. It was a riveting night. Hillary was unbearably smug and condescending right throughout that whole campaign season. It did feel like it served her right in many ways. But... it's just not been worth it. He has directly contributed to the increasing division of American politics, and I don't mean in the way of CNN attacking him, but with his regular all-caps declarations specifically designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator and keep people angry. The idea of a sitting US president or former US president angrily tweeting in all caps every day feels like it is literally lifted out of Idiocracy. No hyperbole. He was still in office and tweeted, "I WON BY A LOT". A six year old says that when they fail to accept not winning a 1st class art contest, not an adult man. It's nuts that this is where American political discourse has gotten to where that just breezed by, almost.

Again, my very exasperation at Trump still being a major contender for political office is what some people enjoy. Not my exasperation specifically, but you know what I mean. Is it worth it, though? Isn't that just complete nihilism? "I don't want to make things better! I just want to annoy people I hate!" What is that? Is that not a road to hell?

What vision? MAGA isn't a vision, it's a tagline.

Health care? No, doesn't understand it and finds it a bit complicated.

Infrastructure? What was his big plan for that?

Green energy? Education? Housing? Financial regulation?

Nothing. The man has no vision apart from him being POTUS.

People don't support Trump because of his vision. I haven't heard one vox pop say that. Lots of 'he'll tells it like it is', 'he is a great businessman', 'he's going to drain the swamp' etc.

But nothing about his vision.

I really find the “he’s not a rapist, he’s a sexual offender” defence utterly awful.

so what?

A: It’s really not any better

B: The judge said he committed rape.

Lads, look at yourselves. You should be ashamed for standing by your man.

Let me guess, the DOJ seized upon Trump's public complaints that 'the DOJ waited too long to try me' etc. - I would have put it in the motion personally. While the defendant motions for the need to delay delay delay in court the DOJ reminds him that, actually, this trial can go much faster if he wants, so he can get on with the election/campaign race, as he has repeatedly argued in his posts over the past few weeks.

edit: close, they cite this letter and point out Trump tried to tell the judge he was starting from a blank slate with his defense against these charges, but in fact it is shown he's been fully informed of and appraised of investigations into himself for a long while now.

etc...

Willis and Smith are the heavy cases. Willis has an open field, esp as the judgement cannot be pardoned. Next week will be interesting.

Imagine taking your taking points from Lauren ****ing Boebart

Be proud of yourselves, fellow posters!!

What other US individual do you propose has done more to sow division and discord in the general population of the United States?

Combatting climate change is far left now? Wild... By the above logic, most of the EU is far left. The GOP latched onto identity politics to create an enemy, they'd fail to prevent same sex marriage etc so they needed a new big bad. So now that includes everything from sex education to the history of slavery to books... If anything he's more a symptom of a decaying GOP that are becoming more and more irrelevant as the years go on cause they don't adjust to social change.