HVO100 diesel fuel.

1139.6l, not 113.96l is it not

Hvo is available at a pump in Certa Glounthaune, Cork..at 1.66 a litre

It's the first one around I'd say

Put 20 quid on two occasions into a 2.0 litres diesel ...I noticed no difference...I thought the car was a bit more responsive but that might be my imagination...not sure if Hvo has excise tax ... hopefully it won't go up when the diesel goes up

They have a set up in cork port in ringaskiddy launched recently i assume storage.

Is HVO the answer for diesels going forward...or is some lad going hungry somewhere in the world. Reading up on it palm oil seems to be the base for HVO especially in America ...

Here's hoping it'll be available for retail sale outside Cork soon. I'd happily pay 10% extra for it

I'm afraid this will be another cod like ethanol.

Ethanol hawked as being renewable, but their is evidence that it is actually increasing deforestation. Brazil is the largest producer of ethanol, the Amazon is being cleared to grow cane sugar from which it is produced from.

But don't get me wrong I do think there is a place for bio fuels, just as long as they are genuinely made from waste products of other industries rather than from cash crops which in the long run will do a lot more harm than fossil fuels.

While HVO100 manufacturers say its a drop in replacement for EN590 diesel, some manufacturers (e.g. VAG) have only certified newer engines for use with HVO100. Others, like Toyota, say that an adjustment is needed on some engines before use. VAG recommends R33 diesel for non-certified engines (R33 is 26% HVO, 7% FAME and 67% plain diesel) Does anyone know what the issue might be? HVO100 seems to be a little less viscous than normal diesel so it seems that injection pressure may need to be lowered a little and there's mention of potentially higher emissions in some cases where no adjustments were made although most tests show lower emissions. Are emissions the main issue or are there potential mechanical risks?

I think that probably you're right. Tests do show that if an engine is optimised for HVO100 then emissions figures can be even more impressive.

If you've time to read it, here's an article on comparative test between standard diesel fuel and HVO100. It's interesting in that it focuses on light duty diesels and the full duty cycle whereas a lot of other tests involve heavy duty truck engines running at a consistent speed. An small increase in NOx was seen under certain conditions but it wasn't constant and involved a Euro 5 engine. Most of the time NOx was lower for HVO100 and soot was greatly reduced. If you've a Euro 6 engine with SCR then NOx is less of an issue. If you use an app to monitor your fuel consumption, you can also track AdBlue usage and would be able to see if AdBlue consumption has increased or decreased. There seems to be little or no downside to using HVO100, provided that it's sourced sustainably.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmech.2018.00007/full

I bought HVO100 at the Carlow/M9 services today and its €1.799 per litre and only available where the trucks fill up around the back and card prepay. This is the second tank fill I've done with HVO100 and a month ago the price was €0.24 cent cheaper at the Tria place near Kinegad. However all fuels seem to have gone up a lot since then and the HVO100 is only €0.02 dearer that More Miles diesel at the same site. My car is a classic Mercedes 250TD from 1988 so will basically run on anything and so far I have seen no difference in consumption or performance but the engine runs smoother.

The HVO100 we get in Ireland comes in from Scandinavia and does not contain any palm oil like the American stuff does

I also filled my tank in Circle K M9 Carlow today. When I arrived I couldn't see the dispenser and asked at the counter. None of the staff that I spoke to knew anything about it or appeared to have heard of anything like it but did suggest checking the truck area which turned out to be right.. So far, the engine (a Peugeot 1.6HDi) seems happy with its new fuel but, according to the handbook, is approved to run on all sorts of fuels including HVO100. Our other car with a VAG 2.0 TDi isn't certified for HVO100 but it'll be running on it too, once the current tank of B7 gets used up.

I see that Inver are rolling it out on retail forecourts too so its getting easier to find.

If it does what it says on the tin, one could see city authorities insisting on its use in future, esp to cut down particulate matter as well as the gases.

"Scientific studies and field trials** have shown that the use of Neste MY Renewable Diesel offers the following benefits with regards to local emissions compared to fossil diesel:

• up to 33% lower levels of fine particulates 
• up to 30% less hydrocarbons (HC)
• up to 24% lower carbon monoxide (CO) emissions
• up to 9% less nitrogen oxides (NOx) 
• reduced levels of polyaromatic hydrocarbons (PAH)

Local emissions can also be reduced effectively by investing in a new fleet of vehicles with electric engines or the most modern diesel engines. However, Neste MY Renewable Diesel offers a drop-in solution that existing vehicles can use right away. Engines that are older and less advanced gain more emissions-cutting benefits from Neste MY Renewable Diesel."

from : https://www.neste.be/en/neste-my-renewable-diesel-be/product-information

It doesn't suit the narrative that ICE cars must go and everyone must buy an electric car and replace their boiler with a heat pump which seems to be the only solution being offered by government. It does however, offer an immediate reduction in CO2 emissions which is what we really need. Air quality improvement is another benefit. BEVs offer an overall reduction but have an up-front emissions impact, as does any new purchase. Once you analyse the CO2 impact of our grid electricity, the difference is marginal. Long term, BEV/hydrogen and public/active transport are likely what we need but right now, today, we need to reduce emissions. Delays have a climate impact and will incur greater carbon emission penalties at international level. A small subsidy to bring parity with B7 diesel would probably cost the state very little given the current likelihood that we'll incur fines for overshooting our emissions targets.

The other benefit is that it's a solution for those who can't afford a new car or to convert to heat pump. Currently there's no solution for that section of our population.

Has anyone received any discount when buying HVO100 using the Circle K fuel card?

Its definitely selling i see the fuel trucks filling up in ringaskiddy nearly everyday now.

I've filled four times from the Circle K at junction 5 M9. It's been 1.799 per litre each time even though the price of Miles Plus has increased beyond that.

We've two cars running on it now with no issues.

Interesting.. I see Audi have certified newer (2021/22 onwards) V6 engines as compatible, but I would think the big win would be in older cars that otherwise still have lots of life in them.

I'm curious as to what my own 2012 V6 TDI would make of it and I'm in Cork a fair bit so could easily stop off in Fermoy, but regardless of VAG certification, what potential issues could there be?

What car/year have you got Mike?

I've no issue with paying a bit more for quality myself - I never use the random/no-name stations - but that said I did get caught out with a bad tank of diesel from a normally reliable Maxol a while back that I haven't used since as a precaution (car cut out twice on me and shuddering at idle, but a fully brimmed tank of Circle K and a spin on the motorway with a mid-journey top-up sorted it thankfully)