Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

The reality is that with ffp restrictions he is probably getting suitcases of cash to sign for Chelsea, it's ridiculous how that club is being ran.

I don't get how long Brighton is going to allow this to carry on. They will have to make a decision soon, either only allow the player to leave on the only agreement they have at the moment, to us, or allow Chelsea to continue negotiating as they have done for months. Or have the player stay and wait for next year when Chelsea has even more money to spend. I think Chelsea knows this year is the last year of big spending and they will not be able to afford him so they are throwing everything at this, but this is dragging it out and is exactly what Brighton wanted to avoid doing.

Lavia 1/4 on to join Chelsea now too, WTF!

He hasn't actually said he doesn't want to play for Liverpool but rather his first preference was Chelsea. Romano is the one who said that Caicedo doesn't want to play for Liverpool and he's just pushing the Chelsea narrative.

It is up to Brighton, they can tell Chelsea if they cannot match our bid in the next 18 hours then no deal. Then they can tell the player if Chelsea does not match the bid they have two options, agree to the transfer or play for Brighton this season. All of this is in Brighton's court, not Chelsea and not the player. You could have a player deciding not to play for the team but I promise you all of the major clubs will then walk away from the player as they will not want him in their team.

Stop looking at the odds, it is just a bunch of maths Boffins or an algorithm that works out the best odds for the bookmaker to make money. From all reports Chelsea seems to be in pole position for both as they have bid the most for Lavia (apparently) and Caicedo has made it known they are his preference. Other reports has it that the player will be happy to come to Liverpool, but he has already said yes to Chelsea so want to keep to that agreement. Who knows what is true but the odds is not an indication of what will happen, only the best odds for a bookmaker to make money.

Where has the player flat out said he doesn't want to join us? And if we are the only club with a bid in why would we withdraw it?

No one has said he doesn’t want to join us apart from Chelsea mouth pieces. He’s stated his preference which is different

That's kind of the point I was trying to make. Brighton can't force him to do anything, our offer is still on the table, but for whatever reason has not progressed further than that. Brighton are not obligated to offer Chelsea an 18 hour window or else. They know the player wants to go to Chelsea, if that offer does come in, well he will be a Chelsea player, if not well he will be playing for them for another while yet. The onus is on Liverpool to tell Brighton that we are withdrawing the offer within the next 12hrs or whatever if there's no sign of movement from the player.

Also betting algorithms are based on the likelihood of an event actually happening. Not just some random "math" formatted to make money.

What's Chelsea's highest bid for him so far?

The more you look at it, the more this is all about the lad's agent.

I don't think Caicedo cares where he goes in truth.

It's about a payday for his reps and he's in the middle.

I get that this sounds stupid, given the sums involved etc, but I genuinely think that bid comes from a spiteful attempt at revenge. "Liverpool think they can f with us, we'll show them..."

Chaps agent reminds me of the fuckery Suarezs agent used to pull

Agreed. If Chelsea really wanted Lavia they would have made an offer to Southampton earlier, they also had a significant sell-on clause for Livramento so they had some room for negotiations. Their offer for Lavia was accepted by Southampton immediately but then there was no reported contact with the player's agent for several hours. A medical could have been organised while negotiations with the agent took place and the deal completed in time to register the player yesterday. Instead they proceeded with a medical for Tyler Adams and then pulled the plug on that transfer deal. Those two transfer offers appear to be grandstanding on Chelsea's part.

I think pulling out of the Adams deal is what freed up the extra 20M?!?

I mean, we need at least two midfielders.

If we or Chelsea don't get him now then they will eventually.

Also, it's Southampton's right but they are the on valuing a kid at 50m based on a relegation season. If he's angry he can take some of the blame out on them.

The sell on clause is probably a nice have for Brighton but will Chelsea agree to one as well?

Ya I think this is it, I've had this lingering feeling that the club don't really rate Lavia as anywhere near a 50m pound player and this Caicedo nonsense kind of confirms that. Now the worry about that is why have they spend so much time lingering over the deal is beyond me, would you like to think they have other targets in mind considering they don't seemed to convinced by Lavia as it seems to be.

He is saying that with a good while now

Everything that's happened over the past 24 hours has confirmed that pretty much everyone 'in the know' is talking through their hoop. I also think Caicedo's avarice is probably being overstated but we don't know that for sure either. I hope we don't bid again.

We offered a club record fee in good faith, Brighton accepted it and then the **** show began. We might end up with Lavia - I'd be ok with that based on nothing more than scouting reports online - but I just hope that we don't sit on our hands until the next 'perfect fit' becomes available as that'll be at least another season playing when there's an identifiable home in our midfield and we're all pretending that Curtis/Thiago are doing really well actually.

Kepa looks to be on his way to Real so probably won't be playing tomorrow.