Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

But another poster is telling us Ukrainians arrived here fleeing an actual war and straight away found jobs and rental properties, despite a severe shortage of rental properties anywhere in the country, yet others seems to en happy to work while the government pays all of their bills for housing and food and likely medical too,

Economic migrants?

You might have heard about a little thing called a housing crisis......

There are people in DP centres whose application have been approved but they can't find anywhere to go.

But you said Ukrainians arrived and rented properties and found jobs almost straight away,if I remember correctly isn't there are people living in DP free of charge with an granted status and possibly working yet they won't move out yet other people fleeing a war have arrived found jobs and rented properties pretty much off the bat

If any number of asylum seekers can come to Ireland, how is it controlled?

I am not saying I have issue with immigration, I am asking how is it controlled.

I am not talking about the disabled.

I am talking about the part time workers who will lose their benefits if they work fulltime. And so dont take up fulltime positions.

There are also a lot of families not working at all who are just better off doing nothing.

Both cases are a drag on society and actually impede the fulltime working person by inflating the cost of housing for working people.

"Depopulation is key in solving our multiple crises."

We have depopulated several times in our history as a state. Every single time was accompanied by deep recession, high unemployment, large numbers of people living in poverty, mass emigration i.e. the entire 1950s, most of the 1980s, the early to mid 2010s.

No country has ever embarked on a policy of deliberately trying to depopulate itself (bar China under Mao Zedung in the 1970s perhaps). These are crank political and sociological policies you are promoting.

Where exactly did I say that?

I said there are Ukrainians working and renting here.

Refugees in general don't live in DP centres, unless they can't find anywhere else to go.

Government incentives give people 800 a month to take Ukrainians, plenty of whom are adding money to that in order to afford houses

But he was strictly vetted,

Wasn't he , ............

To be fair that is a whole different discussion for another day and another thread;)

A genuine question I have for anyone who might be more versed in this (and this is not a racist dogwhistle so if you are thinking of replying to me ranting about Ukrainians or whatever do yourself a favour and **** off).

How do we seem to have so many African/Saharan immigrants here when asylum policy says you should seek it in the first safe country you arrive in? Should this not be the first question asked of anyone arriving from that region - what countries have you been in prior to here and why didn't you seem asylum there? These cases genuinely warrant immediate return to point of departure, no DP or lengthy process required.

I'm genuinely curious as to why this is but the general consensus is that "it just is". There's either rules for official asylum/refuge requests or there's not, and if there is, why are our immigration channels being so blase about enforcing them?

He is an asylum seeker in DP, they are vetted as part of their claim.

How could they be vetted before their claim?

Also, vetting doesn't actually include getting a psychic in to view the future🙄