Ron DeSantis is "Corrupt as Hell" -- because "Why Not"

Is the argument now that Ron is too dumb to realise that a lot of his policies only interest fascists?

One of the reasons top GOP donors are withholding further funding from him, they have said that his campaign policies are alienating him from potential middle of the road voters.

Do you think he is a good presidential candidate and if you had the ability to vote in the 2024 elections would you choose him ahead of trump?

If neither who would your preferred republican candidate be?

Find me the post where I claimed that.

You wont be able to.

Thereby proving the rest of your post to be without foundation and entirely false i.e. Self discrediting.

Where does that post state - and this is what you were asked to show... direct quote from your post:

"Your claim that DeSantis is reliant on the Nazi vote for his future success is not only false."

It doesnt.

Nowhere did I state that he was reliant on them for his future success.

I have actually pointed out the electoral folly of his dog whistling multiple times but to DeSantis it is all about the war on woke.

From post to post you have to resort to demonstrably false misrepresentations of another posters posts.

So DeSantis is still a corrupt Nazi dog whistler. And it is not even effective politically.

It's pretty clear for everyone to see, you want to downplay the demographics that both Trump and DiSantis cater to. They fear monger and garner the vote of everything from QAnon to white supremacists... They equally fear monger and appeal to people looking for something to blame. For most people this isn't in question. Meanwhile you'll get picky about nazi membership in the US. They have fascist leanings and fans.

Yep we can and as is par for the course with your arguments/claims, in this case your claim that the poster stated that any future success for desantis is reliant on the Nazi vote is false.

Nobody dealt with it yesterday because your only criteria is for calling RDS a naxi is that if he rocked up in jack boots, red black and white insignia, and then the school of funny walks. So because you have a miopic and uniformed definition of the ultra right wing isn't on us, it's on you

And a surprising proportion of Americans don't seem to mind leaders who engage in authoritarianism and use false promises to reach a position of power.(the power is their ultimate goal) That tend to use a lot of the playbook of fascistic leaders. Eg promising to send America back to a golden age, rewriting the slave narrative so it looks like slavery was an uplift..

So personally, I would say he's not currently a fascist, he just has fascistic leanings. Both him and Trump like to rewrite reality to have common enemies. They'll latch onto immigrants, trans people, non white people and even start to rewrite history. DiSantis isn't as good as Trump at it but he does this kind of thing. Who would have guessed in 2023, that a major politician would be targeting books...

So ya, Eskimo this is you being pedantic. Extremist politicians in the US do exist and there's a willingness for US citizens to vote for them. (And it's not a left wing issue which you always tend to claim) The Overton window moved drastically in the last twenty years and the kind of rhetoric some parts of society love, is deeply disturbing.

Also your credibility on this is somewhat low given the fact you frequently praise such behaviour and engage in the same rhetoric.

PragerU is infamous for misrepresenting on topics from slavery, fascism, racism and also just outright anti LGBT bs.

And this is the website that is going to be plugged to students in Floridian kids.... Honestly sounds more like a propaganda class in China. Their videos include Frederick Douglas saying that slavery was a necessary evil for the founding fathers to "achieve something great".....

You seem to confuse your opinion as being a consensus on DeSantis, then you proceed to deride others for making up fiction and misrepresentations. The fight with Disney started long before his presidential candidacy so I would be careful about deriding others when you clearly are making misrepresentations and are oblivious to some very basic facts.

It would be enlightening if you could merely show a shred of evidence for your claims portraying DeSantis as a "Nazi dog whistler" instead of having contempt for this discuss by simply declaring it is "a consensus", which is complete nonsense.

It would be better for all if people could just state I disagree with X because of A, B and C, instead of trying to place people into categories that are highly subjective and achieve absolutely nothing. The word "Nazi" has become effectively meaningless as a result of continued, baseless accusations by people such as yourself. You might think it's a powerful claim, but it's not and it's naive to believe that others will accept your words when you offer not even a shred of evidence, only your musings.

Where did I say the fight with Disney started during his presidential candidacy??? DeSantis obviously had the ambition to run for President, or he wouldn't have corruptly abused his office to change the rules so that he could run for president while being governor. He's corrupt as hell too.

How does it make political sense for a governor of Florida with presidential ambitions to pick a fight with his state's largest employer and popular national icon Disney?

Or a governor of Florida full stop?

The evidence for DeSantis being a Nazi and fascist dog whistler is already listed and discussed on this thread. I referenced the consensus on this thread. It is not merely my opinion as it proven by the number of such posts made by me and multiple other posters.

Therefore, it is entirely valid for me to reference it in the way I did. Yet you jumped in with comments about "being ignorant of basic facts" and "deriding others" when you are ignorant of the thread content. You also seem to be ignorant of public comment criticising DeSantis for his responses to ostensible Neo Nazi support for him.

The Miami Herald delivered a blistering rebuke of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday, slamming the potential GOP 2024 hopeful over his failure to outright condemn neo-Nazi demonstrations in Orlando over the weekend.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/miami-herald-shreds-florida-gop-075347862.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmllLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJcplSvdueD0K-K_KVfyV91jX7PDlQU2yrKJAj83oJKiwOI2jLfKcSbUixnEVFLEYlF9tTb3W3LP7-mdQvUyGQFmNrO-0-75iX4LDBOkfgcTSKtIbR-Dc-h_nWGEcjQ-p11vGB-VgFLZuB7KR1JTOcoeQ-xHxNLQNAMqCzbYgF4b

You do realise I just linked to a conservative historian saying his claims in the video were nonsense? And yes, conspiracy theorists teaching history doesn't tend to be a great match. Has D'Souza gone through any peer review process? Are there any relevant historical articles that back up his claim that Giovanni Gentile was left wing? A quick Google of the claim and the only places pushing it are the likes of Conservapedia.

So why should we treat somebody making up things as legitimate historical analyses? Any historians are supposed to backup their claims.... You treat people who make up stuff as serious historians? D'Souza isn't Galileo, he's a grifter and conspiracy theorist.

Interesting that you outright ignored my post which pointed to the shite that they post as history.... It's up there with the pink swastika in terms of accuracy.

I cited both the evidence provided on the thread, and the reaction to that evidence as establishing the consensus on the thread. Your posts clearly demonstrate basic ignorance of the content of this thread.

By not disassociating himself from the protest, the 'dog whistle' is that DeSantis seems happy for Nazi protestors to do his dirty work protesting Disney, protesting in his name, in a cause he champions.

The evidence for his corruption is also on the thread - abuse of office to allow him to run for president, abuse of PAC funds, abuse of Florida state assets to further his presidential campaign.

So there we have it, Ron DeSantis corrupt Nazi dog whistler.

Where is your evidence that your opinion is an accepted consensus? "Nazi-Adjacent behaviors and actions", again just more words, no attempt to qualify that with an example. What evidence is there that he is damaging the Florida economy? GDP growth in the US is 2% with Florida at 3.5%. It's very easy to make claims without having to put in the effort of proving said claims. There is a lot of accusations, loaded terms and conjecture attempting to dress opinion as fact.

The absentee landlord claim is just evidence of your bias. The only recent presidents who weren't in an elected office while campaigning for president were Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan.

Could you also elaborate what is ridiculous about his "Anti-woke" crusade? Is it the banning the discussion of sexuality to children under 9? Is it the ban on CRT?

I can accept that many people don't like DeSantis but claiming a consensus that he is a "Nazi dog whistler" is a completely different matter and I would strongly suspect that the assertion is incorrect.