Overrated and disappointing films

'Don't Look Now' - Often listed in many greatest horror movie lists, I found it to be incredibly tedious.

'Come and See' - Another one that makes the greatest lists, but to me it was an absolute slog. It's essentially a 20 minute horror movie with a LOT of padding.

'The Seven Samurai' - Kurosawa's masterpiece according to some, but I've never found it anything but a complete bore for most of its running time.

'Titanic' - Fast forward to where the ship hits the iceberg, because the rest is pretty much junk, with a dreadful romance that never feels like anything but filler.

'Forest Gump' - Ridiculous and almost insulting melodrama in which an idiot glides through life. Only Hollywood could have made the movie. Gary Sinise is great in it though.

'Top Gun' - Never understood the love this movie gets. Even when it's given "ironically".

'Avatar' - Another one of Cameron's to make this list. Was always amazed at how it was received.

'Joker' - Absurdly overrated by some, when it's really just an OK movie that passes the time well enough.

'The Night of the Hunter' - One of those films that's, bafflingly, counted among the greats of Hollywood. But aside from Robert Mitchum's entertainingly crazy preacher the film is laughable in too many places to be considered good. Lilian Gish's monologue at the end is particularly awful. Interestingly enough, Charles Laughton's only movie wasn't greeted terribly well when it was released and he never directed another movie. However, in it's in subsequent years that it's developed a great reputation. I think critics got it right in 1955 though.

'Amelie' - Vastly overrated French malarkey made by a vastly overrated director.

'Life is Beautiful' - Stupid and almost insulting with a star that's never anything but irritating. Even his Oscar acceptance was annoying.

'Citizen Kane' - A film I really like, but one which has been called the Greatest Movie Ever Made on far too many occasions. However, when you take into account that Welles was only 25 when he wrote, directed and starred in it, plus all of the wonderful shots that are in the movie it's impossible not to marvel at its making. Still doesn't mean that it's not overrated. It far from disappointing though.

'The Rock' - One of the few movies that I couldn't sit through...and I've watched 'Zombie Lake'!

'Pan's Labyrinth' - When it's not dealing with the child at the centre of the story and her activities in the fantasy world, Del Toro's movie descends into ridiculous nonsense about the Spanish Civil War, with an absolutely laughable villain that's never more than an absurd cartoon. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that all of Guillermo Del Toro's movies are overrated and disappointing.

'Inglorious Basterds' - Tarantino's worst film by a country mile. Idiotic depiction of the war, even if it is tongue in cheek. I'd rather watch the Italian original. At least it spelt Bastards correctly.

'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade' - Easily the worst of the trilogy, laden with dreadfully heavy handed and unfunny "jokes" that misfire terribly and all because a few lilly livered parents though that its predecessor was too "dark". Neither Spielberg or Lucas are funny guys and it shows. It's probably fondly remembered mostly because of the chemistry between Ford and Connery.

'Twilight' - Neutered sparkly vampires for teenage knicker wetters. I'm not the audience, but still.

'Get Out' - A mildly entertaining black comedy that's been elevated waaaaay beyond what it is by a fawning critical and audience reception. Was at 100% on Rotten Tomatoes until someone with a bit of sense disregarded the hype train and wrote a middling review.

'Fantasia' - Unbelievably tedious Disney animated movie with sequences that feel like they go on for hours, all set to classical music, so there's not even any funny dialogue to have a giggle at. The animation is, of course, fantastic. But that's not enough.

'Wonder Woman' - Lauded by critics and fans alike when it was released, I've only ever seen this as a lukewarm effort. Hideously overrated junk.

'The Bride of Frankenstein' - James Whale's sequel to his 1931 movie is often considered to be superior and his best movie by some. I thought it was absurd and nowhere near the level of excellence that 'Frankenstein' was.

'The Searchers' - Incredibly adored by movie critics and fans, John Ford's western is a turgid snoozefest. Some nice looking location footage is often offset by incredibly artificial studio shots and the characters are deeply uninteresting. Features some of the worst comedy relief moments of any of Ford's movies.

'Mad Max' - Sure, it's got great stunts and the low budget guerilla film making is quite admirable. But beyond that it's boring as hell. 'Mad Max 2' is a vast, vast, improvement.

'The Shape of Water' - Simply put, one of the most undeserving Oscar winners in history.

'The Babadook' - While mostly being good, sometimes great even, Jennifer Kent's directorial debut is leadened terribly with an awful, screeching, nightmare, child who we're supposed to feel sorry for. But I just couldn't. I wanted the Babdook to rip him to shreds...and that makes me a bad person LOL.

'The Game' - David Fincher's movie about a man who takes part in an elaborate game that gets wildly out of control is absurdly overrated by some. But the film too frequently verges on the absurd to move its plot along. The ending especially is atrocious.

'The Prestige' - Christopher Nolan's 2006 film is mostly good, with a great cast, and a nice dive into Victorian stagecraft and showmanship. But one that's completely scuppered by a bait and switch Sci-Fi finale that utterly destroys the entire movie.

'Wall-E' - A film of two halves. The good half where we see the titular droid on a deserted Earth going about his business and the boring as hell part where he goes to space. The entire movie should have stayed on Earth and should have left the humans out of it altogether.

'Sophie's Choice' - Featuring an excellent, Oscar winning, performance by La Streep and a heart breaking scene where her choice is made, Pakula's movie just trundles along, tediously, for the majority of its two and a half hours.

'The Goonies' - Vastly overrated by people who remember it due to nostalgia fuelled "memories". It has some charm but, really, the movie just isn't that good.

'Brokeback Mountain' - I'm not the audience, but even without that caveat Ang Lee's movie cured my insomnia.

'Salo, The 100 Days of Sodom' - Pasolini's extravagant exercise in degeneracy is merely an excuse to show repugnant imagery under the dubious declaration of an allegory of Italian fascism. But just as the maker of 'A Serbian Film' tried to claim that his own depraved movie was really about more lofty ideas than the visuals presented, Pasolini attempts to pass off his magnum opus as something more than simply exploitative art rings very hollow, indeed, and it is gigantically overrated in certain quarters.

'Terminator 2 Judgement Day' - Another James Cameron movie to make the list. The sequel to 1984's vastly superior 'The Terminator', 'Terminator 2' is like the louder, more brasher, younger brother of a good mate who's entertaining in small doses but very quickly overstays his welcome due to his incessant noise and want for attention.

'Picnic at Hanging Rock' - Handsomely shot but deathly dull Peter Weir movie about a true event that happened in Australia about the disappearance of some schoolgirls and their teacher during the turn of the last century, all unfolding at the speed of the slowest sloth in town.

'The Mission' - Probably more liked for the Morricone soundtrack than the actual content of the story. Roland Joffe's dreary yarn about two missionaries in the South American rainforest is one of the most bland pictures I've ever seen.

'Tron' - A beloved 1980's movie that's...well...kinda really dumb. An, admittedly, well shot movie for its time but also a Sci-Fi movie where's there's little science and a lot of bad fiction.

'The Last House on the Left' - Wes Craven's 1972 horror remake of Bergman's 'Jungfrukällan' has always been extremely overrated by some genre fans and while it does have some merit, the inclusion of some comedy characters and situations, complete with ridiculous music, render the whole project absurd when it should be powerful and shocking.

'Magnolia' - Overlong, convoluted and desperately pretentious, Paul Thomas Anderson's 'Magnolia' is an incredibly self important that utterly implodes at the end when everyone starts singing.

'Blow Up' - Antonioni's slow moving swinging 60's "thriller" is a turgid, crashing, bore and includes one of the most ostentatious scenes I've ever seen a movie.

'Nashville' - Rambling, unfocused and without any kind of discernable story, Robert Altman's celebrated movie clocks in at an interminable 160 minutes which feels endless.

AI... I really wanted to like it but thought it was an incoherent mess.

I'm not sure the movie was trying to be a laugh a minute. Maybe the trailer oversold the comedy aspect.

Tony I think you might not like any actor or film at all. That's a long list of decent movie to find no redeeming qualities in.

I think with historic movies, Braveheart etc is very hard to get to get the balance right between movie and documentary. Often they compress people and time into much simpler and smaller package for the masses. They certainly get expose people and get them interested in history, enough to go back and learn more about it.

Hard to find any neutral material that paints Dev in a wholly positive light. Other than people politically aligned with him.

The World's End. The beginning of Pegg and Wright's climb up their own arseholes.

All elements of it are shite. It's a brutally unfunny comedy, crap sci-fi, uninteresting drama and no characters you care about.

I can see this thread is going to be a downer of negativity.

Like most any historical figure, there's a mix of good and bad. Napoleon can be a tyrant and a reformer at the same time.

Funny thing about Dev, people voted him in not once, but multiple times.

Agree with Night of the Hunter not living up to the hype; one great performance but the rest of the film felt flat.

It would depend what criteria we're using for a film's reputation. Box office earnings frequent put me off. I have no time for Marvel films yet they seem to hog all the highest grossing records.

Awards are also tricky. Behind-the-scenes politics can frequently play a role. One thing I do notice is that an average historical biopic is frequently saved by an outstanding performance by the main actor (and lots.of Best Actor/Actress winners come from them by playing to our pre-conceptions).

I was a fan of Oppenheimer but I can see how others wouldn't be into all the hype just because of Cillian Murphy's performance.

I think you'd have a hard time creating an interesting movie from De Valera.

When you go researching. For all the positive things he achieved are counter balanced by the negatives. His legacy hasn't aged well in the cold light of hindsight.

So many have cable cut that streaming and cinema is the only access many have. The choice is so narrow that the we are losing any wider diversity. Also any appreciation for the cinemas back catalogue. Saw one piece where people didn't know who Clint Eastwood was.

I started collecting my favourite classics on Blu-ray. In my youth I used to watch old classic movies at the weekend. Going back to the 1940 forties. You'd have seasons of all sorts of things. That kind of cultural experience and education is gone.

You've reminded me to buy Gran Torino on Blu-Ray soon before it's no longer possible and gets cancelled from any streaming services.

Got good the bad etc recently and letters and flags.

You are right but DeValera is often used by Irish people now as a kind of shorthand for Catholicism, traditionalism and Gaelic protectionism generally. He also 'overstayed his welcome' with the first generation of 1960s political liberals by hanging onto the Presidency until 1973.

Also Tim Pat Coogan's strong dislike of DeValera may have influenced some people.

So maybe people were open to seeing DeValera as move-villain bad.

Some disgraceful opinions there

Inception, La La Land, Black Panther, Hamilton, Mad Max: Fury Road and Star Wars: The Last Jedi are some of the most overrated movies of recent times that I can remember off the top of my head. From the past 50 years The Exorcist would be top of the list, for me.

Right so. Always thought it was a true story.