Russia - threadbanned users in OP

And this is why long term, no matter what Putin designates as Russian territory, Ukrainians will never accept it as such, and it will be a very painful and very expensive occupation for Russia.

And the Euro Ruble graph

True, I'm venting on another bot, here to tell us how great Russians are and how its only Putin. Then when he's taken out in 6 months we should forgive and let Russia back into the fold.

Not all Dictatorships are causing the death and destruction that Russia is. All the reasons you give have a breaking point, thats what happened in other countries. The only real solution to this is a change of system in Russia, while they hold a Nuclear threat no country is going to invade Russia, the sanctions seem to be hurting, maybe that will wake the Russians up to take action, maybe they will reach that breaking point.

But given a choice, more Ukrainians (or the next country) dying or "innocent" Russians dying, if that's the choice, then it would have to be the Russians. There is a lot riding on this, similar countries (N.Korea, Chine etc..) are watching and don't want to see Russia collapse as it undermines their position. Its why we see clowns like 'become death' constantly reappearing on site like Boards

Isn't the line "all russians must die" the very paranoia that Putin created to justify his special operations?

Russian public has been played like a Brits were played with brexit.

Make Russia great again, MAGA, and Take back Control.

All have overdosed on their own sense of self importance.

We've had many new reg members on here in the past yr, they start with some angle, but eventually the mask slips and its obvious they are stooges, here to derail the discussion. We've had the "don't poke the bear it will throw the bomb at you" angle thrown at us, Also there was "lets stop the killing and have peace talks" etc etc, all designed to deflect from what's actually happening.

You fit the profile, exactly. maybe I jumped the gun, but time will tell. You register in July and hide your threads. I never said all russians should die, I said I wouldn't condemn that position, certainly not when Russians go to Ukr and rape little boys, girls, grandmothers, castrate men.... This is a Russian system. If it stayed within its borders then they can do what they want. But that "culture" spilling over its borders is disgusting.

So, other than objecting to a concept, idea, that all Russians should die. What is your opinion on the reality of Russia invading Ukr, raping and killing their way across a sovereign country ? should all those Russians die ?

So you agree Russia should withdraw from Ukraine?

That's the very paranoia Putin would sow.

In the end it will take Russian to take Putin out because Ukraine isn't going to invade and occupy Russia.

What will be interesting to see if we end up with a new Russian civil war. All the posters here who say "death to all Russian" will suddenly switch to "death to all Putinites, slava Free Russia!" And Ukraine will help them.

By the site rules (and please I'm not back seat modding), but isn't repeatedly calling for death for people just because of their nationality breaking the forum charter?

We need to reduce the heat, because there will be a post Putin Russia.

We'll probably be accused of being pro Putin stooges, which ironically is the very soup of paranoia that has kept Putin in power.

Honestly think the Russian bots have gotten smarter. Akin to the fellowship who attack russian twitter with humour, the russian bots are attacking threads like these by calling everyone a Russian bot. A number of useful posters here have either left or been threadbanned because they have been goaded by a couple of posters. Thread was once fairly on the ball with info from a number of sources, now it's just people shouting Russian bot.

No, but the ones who support the invasion of Ukraine do up until the point that they change their minds and start pressuring Putin to withdraw his forces. That may involve making some hard stands that will likely face brutal attempts to suppress, but overcoming tyranny usually involves this kind of sacrifice, as the people of Ukraine are currently finding out.

So, chop-chop, Russians.

No, the view is that we should not be concerned about harm to a population that is utterly complicit in supporting the most heinous war crimes. Every single Russian citizen at home & abroad who is not campaigning against this war is complicit imho.