Another random person hospitalized after unprovoked attack in Dublin city center

Owh Dublin 8. Sorry.

Jaysus, sure it's that's grand then no problem. Might aswell be a different country. Nevermind the fact its about 5 minutes down the road from DCC. Practically the same thing.

I live in D4 and yes there is trouble here, my new bike got robbed by some waster not long ago from the apartment block bike area. They have legs, like little rodents teeming about the place.

You would swear this is your crew or something and business is under threat with some of the posts jumping to defend the indefensible. What's the story?

Were you not saying that more money should be invested in the poorer communities to help stop the assaults/antisocial behaviour?

Does it not make sense for the city centre businesses to invest in security at night?

Temple Bar, for instance.

If businesses banded together, they could easily afford a few groups of security to roam the area and call the guards where trouble occurs. They could also use their force, in a reasonable way, same as they do on the door.

I think we are at a point where businesses need to embarras the govt into action.

I could be wrong but it's one thing to police your own business premises but another think altogether to go around policing public areas. It used to be known as vigilantism in the old days and was very effective at dealing with undesirables in smaller urban centres, but of course done on a pro bono basis

Yes, its an interesting one.

If you are policing your bar as a bouncer, I am not sure there is a rule on your proximity to the front door of the premises.

Its just that in a normal environment, you would police from outside the front door and are in effect policing on public property, as you are stationed on a public street.

So what would legally stop bouncers patrolling Temple Bar... I dont think they would be doing anything different than they do today, technically.

The idea is based on shopping security staff.

We dont have these antisocial issues in centres that are policed, so why dont we just have district security in outdoor areas also.

Just dont let the tracksuited scum into Temple Bar in the same way gangs of scrotes dont get into shopping centres, posh hotels etc.

You’re wrong. How often are you in Kilkenny CC? Are you there every day? I’ve been there and I’m still alive, ergo no violence ever happens there and even the little scrotes (not the nice kids like your son, of course) are angels and wouldn’t hurt a fly.

Kilkenny is safe.

Am I doing it right?

Ahh stop with the “social welfare is extremely generous” nonsense for a start. It’s shìt, it’s not nearly enough to be able to live on and provide for a family to the same standards as a household income which is on even twice, never mind four times the rate of social welfare.

Why you’d even consider turning out another generation of adults dependent upon social welfare anyway is missing the whole point of investment in providing for increased social services to assist families with children so that the children are able to benefit from increased access to education while attending said education with at least having had a proper breakfast that morning so they have the energy to learn in class and participate in school activities.

Investment in training and mentoring programmes staffed with the right people to be able to provide the training without wrinkling their noses and treating it like a punishment for themselves having to teach adults the basics of reading and writing with the objective being that they would be able to participate in the workforce and gain meaningful employment, modelling behaviour for their children to follow, as opposed to being strung out in benzos or whatever their drugs of choice are when the children come in from school.

The alternative is simply for the Government to revert to type in the knowledge that people living in dire poverty generally can’t be arsed voting, so they appeal to middle-class voters and sustain the underclass on payments which in your opinion are generous, while ensuring they never have the motivation to better themselves and follow their parents and relatives into a life of criminal activity, for most of them a short and miserable one before the next generation takes their place.

Seriously? Of course I'm not. I don't live there.

I'd consider kilkenny safe.

Also don't talk about my son ever again please.

We haven’t though, successive Governments have largely sought to ignore the problem and play down its impact on Irish society in favour of appeasing the voting middle-class electorate. That ignorance has consequences, by which I mean the problems aren’t just limited to small pockets of poverty among the population any more which could previously be contained and controlled as long as the middle-classes were appeased.

For what it’s worth I’m neither progressive nor liberal, and we haven’t tried either progressive or liberal policies. Ronald Regan wouldn’t be someone I’d be quoting either in relation to social policy given the outcome of his hair-brained idea to cut spending on social services and come out with out with clangers ignorant of reality:

The percentage of the total population below the poverty level increased from 13.0% in 1980 to 15.2% in 1983, then declined back to 13.0% in 1988. During Reagan's first term, critics noted homelessness as a visible problem in U.S. urban centers. According to Don Mitchell, the increased cuts to spending on housing and social services under Reagan was a contributing factor to the homeless population nearly doubling in just three years, from 1984 to 1987. In the closing weeks of his presidency, Reagan told David Brinkleythat the homeless "make it their own choice for staying out there," noting his belief that there "are shelters in virtually every city, and shelters here, and those people still prefer out there on the grates or the lawn to going into one of those shelters". He also stated that "a large proportion" of them are "mentally impaired", which he believed to be a result of lawsuits by the ACLU (and similar organizations) against mental institutions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1981/02/19/reagan-calls-for-414-billion-in-spending-cuts-for-fiscal-1982/e78afaa9-3560-485c-b24f-66564141b40a/

We had our own similarly ignorant of reality leader of the nation at the same time, and we know how that worked out too:

Usual 'blame society' nonsense you and others have been spouting for years - your type are one of the main reasons for this anti social behaviour, you just can't see the wood for the trees.

Poverty? Poverty my arse! Ireland's massive social welfare class live in the lap of luxury compared with people living in actual poverty in the rest of the world. It's also been documented ad nauseum that these scroungers very often have more disposable income than working families working average jobs. Free cash, free housing, free transport, free medical - top it up with more free cash from the CWO, Vincent de Paul and maybe a bit of work on the side. Living in real poverty for a while might do them the world of good TBH - might make them realise just how easy they have it.

OK where have you strolled in Joburg and cape town and at what time.

I've been following your posts for a while now and either you are cross between Rambo and Chuck Norris , or else you are a troll / Walter mitty.

Much of the civil service is middle class though, promises to overhaul it would turn them off voting for this party