Heavyweight Boxing

There one massive difference you haven't factored in , AJ needed to get Rob tired before he could land that big shot Wilder did not , , Lets not forget Rob fought the week prior & was in no where near his best condition , The last time AJ knocked someone out early was Molina way back in 2016 ,

AJ does not stop people with ! big shot it's a myth, he accumulates big punches & then one becomes the one too many,

Wilder flat lines you with ONE singular shot it's a massive difference

You say AJ just needs to connect clean & hard he wins, When is thew last time AJ has connected clean & hard without taking damage himself ???

His last two knock out win's are Helenius (7) & Pulev (9) & both landed clean & often on AJ ,

Iv said it to you for about 5 years if not more on here Wilder is an nightmare for AJ, the worst match up in the division ,

Wilder ends AJ's career

Its been 2016 since we seen AJ power took anyone out early & that was a shot Eric Molina,

Since Wlad who was 41 himself , he's stopped AVP , Pulev ,Helenoius all late 30's & past it , In all of those fights they tired & where stopped ,He also took damage & shots himself while getting them into deep waters before his "power" stopped them

So history tells us if he stop's Wilder it'll be likely be somewhere from round 7 up & to do so he will have to put him under pressure & take shots himself like he always does o get a finish ,

AJ's massive question is does he posses the balls & the dog anymore to step to Wilder & put him under that pressure & does he last 7 rounds without getting flat lined himself, He didnlt have that in him v Ruiz or Usyk x 2

In my opinion Wilder wins by brutal ko,

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If this fight were to go 6-7 rds I’d be surprised Wilder is in any decent/fit shape. He’ll probably be raggedy as **** (if the pace is somewhat fast).

gun to head I’d probably lean Wilder inside 3. Just about lean. It’s as close to a toss up as can be for me.

Only Fury could have risen like the phoenix after that blow from Wilder. He does that to AJ its goodnight sir.

I probably wouldn’t go with his type win, albeit I would not be hugely surprised.

My reasoning being that if we get out of 3-4 rds and the pace is good, Wilder’s speed, delivery and power is clearly lessening I reckon, which should allow AJ ride/take anything that comes his way.

Which blow? Caught him side head/ear and then a cuffing hook as Fury was falling down rd 12 fight 1

Fury was standing upright after 10-11 seconds. Wilder has landed heavier blows than those from 2018 v Fury.

Nobody is saying he can “get back” anywhere. Folks just discussing if he could put a few shots together to KO Wilder (before Wilder KOs him.)

btw, the AJ from “years” ago was never great either. He was always vulnerable. Wlad showed this in 2017, and Ruiz not long after.

Fair point. He was always over rated. Seems to have serious problems putting a few punches together for a long time now.

That’s exactly my point. AJ and Wilder both knocking Helenius out is of no preparation or importance to how a fight between them goes.

Wilder, in my view has probably only one advantage here. One shot power. Other than this, AJ is just an overall better puncher and boxer.

Now, all Wilder likely needs is that shot, but so does AJ. If AJ throws and connects clean with the type right hand that Helenius rode, Wilder is gone!! Both past their best, and maybe Wilder more past it.

Wilder moves his feet far quicker than AJ & can close distance far quicker than AJ,

Wilder footwork can of course be sloppy but its far more nibble than AJ ,

I also think Wilder has a better jab than AJ does,

Why do you question Wilder's tank ?

He's gone late numerous times & looked grand, He ko'd Ortiz late & nearly Fury,

Seems like your basing it off him getting beat up by Fury , His fitness kept him going in both cases, if he had no gas tank he'd have gone much earlier , He lasted longer then AJ did under pressure form Ruiz for example

He’ll be about 38 or so come fight night and is past his best.

I said that if is fast and busy I reckon he suffers. I think AJ has a better tank, at least better tank management.

He showed quite a consistently fit tank in Usyk 1 and 2. Both quite pacy fights.

If AJ and Wilder are busy and cannot take each other out and it’s anyway pacy, as well as up close and rugged, then the smaller (lighter) Wilder suffers more fitness wise.

btw, fitness did not see AJ lose v Ruiz. He kind of quit really..

We can’t prove a gas tank query, obviously. There is a lot to factor in.

Vast majority Wilder’s fights he never needed proper fitness.

In Fury 3 after 4 rds he looked exhausted because of the pace.

he will be 38 when they fight, past his best, probably still carrying around the scars of Fury.

My money (if it is pacy and no KO) is on AJ being fresher and fitter and more composed and in control.

Wilder hasn't gone 12rds since the 2018 fury fight. That's a long time ago. Prior to this he was always pretty comfortable no matter the fight from a fitness perspective. However since then I dunno tbh. There's a bit of a question mark.

Ortiz 2 was 7th rd KO.

And It's pretty fair to say his fitness has looked questionable in the 2nd and 3rd fury fights. Ya can't tell anything from the other fights in this time period other then the fact he can bang. Which we all knew since day one.

I'll counter this by saying his heart and determination haven't looked questionable. He showed both in spades in fury 3.