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Another random person hospitalized after unprovoked attack in Dublin city center

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Following my posts? Not sure to be flattered or scared.

    I'm not a hard man by any stretch of the imagination. I just want a quite life which I generally have.

    As for sa, think capetown was around Mandela Rhodes Hotel. Day-time and nighttime. To be honest a stupid thing to do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭newmember2


    lols

    Of course it's the city, it's between the canals isn't it?

    Next you'll be saying the Four Courts aren't part of the city because they're in D7.



  • Registered Users Posts: 51,721 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    So this latest young thug cried in the courtroom?? An act for a sympathetic vote from the judge imo. He wasn't crying when he was assaulting and robbing his victim.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    It's just a fact.

    And those that advocate for the "give to those for free, those who are already getting the best of everything, for free.....", whilst advocating to continue the neglect of the back bone of the country through adequate law enforcement - presumably there's a few of those type in government cause we're still stuck at this stalemate.

    That type are actually enabling/facilitating the problem.

    ........

    That being said, no one advocates pulling the rug out from under the vulnerable.

    However, the THREAT, the potential to have their privileges (and that's what they are, they're privileges, not rights) removed, can work wonders.

    I say this based on experienced.

    .........

    Local woman in my area was raising HELL for the better part of two years.

    No one spoke out against her for fear of "condemning the vulnerable".

    A foreign dude moved into the area, fell victim to her charade (and that of her kids, cause she'd raised them to be little horrors also).

    He complained to her welfare broker, essentially (housing, etc).

    Just. Like. That.

    Problem solved. They threatened to remove her housing, threatened her with eviction if she didn't settle it down.

    And I think the entire locale is grateful to this foreign dude and his adept communication ability, who was simply acting on good sense and according to the rule of civilized society.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    It's the horses I feel for. Imagine going around with Chunk and the lads on your back?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Now, we can't possibly confirm that. It may have been the highlight of his week, so tears of joy are not out of the question.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭newmember2


    "But the idea on here that you can't walk around town like we all do every day without getting assaulted is complete balls."


    Show me the post that's saying what you're claiming above because I haven't read it. As you say yourself, Dublin hasn't come to a standstill, and people go about their business there everyday. None of this denies the fact that there is a marked increase in drug use, drug dealing, and general antisocial behaviour, with a special mention for the gangs of youths who are beating to a pulp any randomer that looks at them crooked.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    It's just a fact.


    It’s not just a fact, and whether or not your opinions are based on your experience, it doesn’t change the fact that what you’re referring to is depriving people of their rights, doesn’t matter that you refer to them as privileges.

    Your anecdotes aren’t worth a damn either because they in no way influence social policy, which is determined by politicians, not the ordinary people who have no authority to make these decisions or your silly anecdotes about your foreigner neighbourhood vigilantes putting women in their place 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    If someones is persistently behaving anti-socially whilst in a residence provided to them for free;

    It does not seem to me to be excessive to threaten them with eviction if they don't settle down.

    And guess what;

    It worked.

    And the probability is it would continue to work, cause "crap flows downhill", and as long as scum continue to perpetrate crime and anti-socialism with relative impunity, nothing will change.

    As another poster highlighted, this country has all carrot, no stick.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    What a strange comment (although not overly surprising) and ridiculous scenario to come up with. Is that something you’d do gameoverdude? Otherwise I can’t even see how you’d consider such a scenario.

    Also, are you doubting I’ve been to Compton? Are you calling me a liar? Is this you trying to get me to react?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    The Irish government don’t give a hoot what middle Ireland thinks , they prioritise the views of the media and the NGO industrial complex , both write and dictate policy



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    I don’t need to guess that it doesn’t work, because I know that it doesn’t work, because people engaging in antisocial behaviour are just as aware as I am (and you’re not, obviously), that it’s almost impossible for local authorities to get an eviction order for antisocial behaviour. Most of the time local authorities simply don’t bother, instead leaving it up to Gardaí to intervene, as opposed to vigilantes taking it upon themselves to sort out the problem, by engaging in antisocial behaviour themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Anyone know where we could see crime stats for DCC over the years? Like CSO type atars, are they produced/made public?

    I don't think DCC is any worse than when I was 15 (38 now) drinking homemade Dolly mixtures in Stephens green, or skateboarding around Central Bank.

    Id need to be shown it in crime figures to believe it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    *Posts in thread, gets reply in said thread

    “Following my posts?”

    Do you need us to tell you how boards works amigo?

    🥴🥴🥴



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Not saying you're right or wrong, just looking for information.

    What are the NGO's you feel primarily influence government policy?

    Can you list them?

    I definitely agree re media and influence of course.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    as opposed to vigilantes taking it upon themselves to sort out the problem, by engaging in antisocial behaviour themselves.

    Well this is what we want to avoid.

    "Actionable".

    I have related one anecdote of mine, I cannot say it applies without fail.

    But in instances of reporting, typically in my experience there must be concisely written reporting that is "actionable".

    i.e. justifiable.

    The issue above was made in relation to an NGO that houses homeless, non workers.

    In relation to council housing complaints, I'm unfamiliar with the process but I'd reckon complaints would rarely be made under formal actionable terms.

    I just know doing so was very effective in one instance.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    as opposed to vigilantes taking it upon themselves to sort out the problem, by engaging in antisocial behaviour themselves

    And re this, it's exactly why increased police presence is necessary.

    The civilized citizen knows they'll be prosecuted for sinking to the level of anti-social behaviour, as a means to try and address anti-social behaviour.

    THIS is why there'e public outcry that, whether it's policy or laziness - the police are simply not doing their job.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    They do give a hoot what middle Ireland thinks because they’re dependent upon those people to elect them. They don’t care what the media or NGOs think because they know that middle Ireland doesn’t give a tuppeny fcuk about antisocial behaviour in Dublin City Centre. Politicians in Government both write and dictate policy, informed by the civil servants and numerous advisors in their various departments. Opposition politicians try to introduce bills which they hope will be considered, which for the most part are shot down by parties in Government.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    That's not true, working class vote as much if not more than middle class.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭Become Death


    In fairness, he was responding to someone who stated that they had been "following his posts"



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie




  • Unregistered / Not Logged In Posts: 276 ✭✭Jazz Hands


    We require new young offenders detention centers and limit bail options, also a faster way to get these people through the courts. Also reduction of suspended sentences and sentencing transitions from detention centers to prison when hitting 18.

    The government can afford it and the public would support it.

    Take them off the street 1by 1.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    My sences are assaulted ever time I visit Dublin. From the second I depart Heuston station.

    I see them everwhere, on the tram, on the boardwalk, on the pavements, groups loitering on front steps, in and out of Pennys, on the buses, around ever corner, arseing around on Henry steet, where not. You can hear them as well, you don't know if they're having an argument or trying to sing. It's a kind of blessing in disgusie though as it serves as a advanced warning.

    Just observing them for a moment is enought to spoil your day. The CC isn't just anywhere it's the country's top entetrainment location, whether that be just shopping, eating, drinking, cinema, whatever. The trains here at the weekend are always full, most headed to Dublin, these days spending a small fortune for a single night's overnight stay. This problem doesn't only effect Dublin residents, it effects everyone, as some tourists will testify.

    You see this is the problem. Most peple won't be physically assaulted, but there is that fear that you'll be in the wrong palce at the wrong time, and that all comes from what you see.

    We currently have NGO's talking about minorities not 'feeling safe'. No surpise they don't give a shyte about the non-minorities feeling safe. Personally I'm a thousand times more concerend about the state of Dublin CC than being the victim of a homophobic attack.

    The undersierables are a protected demograpic, that is why they exist to the level they do. There is no chance whatseover the guards are going to target them, precisly becasue they are a demograpic. It is not that the Guards aren't doing enought, rather it's thier policy not to do anything about speciflly them. If these incidents were commited by random peole not of any particulary demographic the guards would be all over them.

    The leftist minsdet is there's no greater cime than looking down on people, espeially if those people are a demograpic. Oh God forbid some down and out not of the undesierable demopraphic is assumed to be one of those and not looked on sympatially. But who's fault is that, when most of them are. I've witness the undesirables casually begging for money in the pubs sayin they need funds for a room for the night. They don't need a room for the night -- they're scammin. It's their self emplyment job because they know they're enought gulibie peolpe out there to make their activities worthwhile.

    There was a woman idk either a politicain or a councilor on the news around the time of the america tourist attack, she said the answer was not to 'sweep them away elsewhere' but to provide x x x for them. No, the answer is to sweep them away and more importantly sweep her ilk away as well, because she's the problem. Make no mistake, those types want you to see the undesirables, to keep you feeling how privilaged you are and make you feel guilty that you had it easy.

    I'm listening to Harris on the radio right now talking about deprevation and deprived areas. How on earth can one be of a deprived area when you can walk to the O'Connel street in 10 minutes. A significant percentage of the country continually relocate to Dublin to work. Those arguments were arguements that appied in the 60's but not today. The state has allowed a demograic of underclass to fester and now they have no clue how to get rid of them. They're are not even trying.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,913 ✭✭✭Cordell


    How on earth can one be of a deprived area

    Deprived not of money or means or opportunities, but of proper role models. If by the time you're an adult you have already seen your father pissed drunk and getting into fights, or maybe never waking up in the morning to go to work, well, guess what.



  • Unregistered / Not Logged In Posts: 276 ✭✭Jazz Hands


    There are many places in Ireland that are dangerous. Dublin is just the worse place.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    The undersierables are a protected demograpic, that is why they exist to the level they do. There is no chance whatseover the guards are going to target them, precisly becasue they are a demograpic. It is not that the Guards aren't doing enought, rather it's thier policy not to do anything about speciflly them. If these incidents were commited by random peole not of any particulary demographic the guards would be all over them.


    There was a woman idk either a politicain or a councilor on the news around the time of the america tourist attack, she said the answer was not to 'sweep them away elsewhere' but to provide x x x for them. No, the answer is to sweep them away and more importantly sweep her ilk away as well, because she's the problem. Make no mistake, those types want you to see the undesirables, to keep you feeling how privilaged you are and make you feel guilty that you had it easy.



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    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    You mean, "Irish culture is underdeveloped consistently throughout the entire state, just most concentrated in Dublin".

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Grand, not to be glib but you seem to care more about this stuff than I do. Just had a lovely walk home from Camden street to Smithfield, not a bother. Came up Oliver Bond to avoid the hustle and bustle of Thomas Steet. Wouldn't have done that 10 years ago. Is Dublin perfect, no. Is it safe? Seems to be safer than a lot of the rest of the country. It suppose it's down to perception, like most things. ** I should add I spent about 5 mins looking for that chart, happy to have my arse handed to me if I've misinterpreted them.





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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Dublin? Don't talk to me about Dublin. I remember Dublin City in the rare auld times. Before it even had a McDonald's in Temple Bar. Back then, the young fellas used to deal outside Eamon Doran's. The drugs weren't as bad then, though. No heroin or coke or anything, just loads of soap bar hash. Smelled like diesel, was made of rat poison and would put you inside a couch after two toots. You don't go out assaulting random Brits after a blast of that stuff. Bring it back, I say. Stick a load of couches in Temple Bar, get rid of the devil's dandruff, the triple sod, the yellow bentines and just clarky cat the whole lot.



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