The dairy boom.Can we officially say its over

The lad who's building my parlour also built my cubicle shed 4 years ago. At that time he hadn't done a milking parlour at all. He has since done 4 and he's learnt a lot from them.

Gdt down 7% today.next spring will be interesting to say the least.won’t be too many heifers selling for over 2,000€ plus

No it's not its completely true. And proven its a lot to do with the way there grown and conditions there grown in

Just an opinion lad, relax. I'm in expansion mode actually. I have land and facilities for 100 in the top band so I will head in that direction.

You say you have 170 but half of them are belong to daddy. So you have 85 each.

I didn’t say “I” though. I said “we’re”

very well aware it’s a collective effort

neither of my parents milk any more

I did majority of it up till this year outside of few nights away, holidays etc. have a neighbour milking 3 evenings a week every week this year and plan to keep that going

dad does a good bit of tractor work and mam does a few errands when she’s about her day to day things. My wife works full time in a busy job with a global company and we’ve 3 young kids who are very keen for the outdoor life

but no definitely couldn’t no see myself being disheartened with what we’re at. My parents may well be around and still involved but the weight is firmly on my shoulders and it’s up to me to do the heavy lifting at this stage.

if its a substitute for milk, its going to hit & displace milk sales.

so explain away.

I did do 100% of the milking, I dry off every cow. I scrape and lime the cubicles every morning before milking, dad scrapes them in evening when milking or when dry, I do all the feeding, I push it in 9 times out of 10, i look after all calving, feed every calf that’s on a teat, dad will look after the auto feeder. I do all fert and most of the slurry. Had no help in the parlour training 35-40 heifers the last couple years. I set up all the grass breaks, dad would take the odd one down

we have all young stock contract reared from 4 months old to 20 months old. That is a big help

I know what it’s like to look after numbers. I know we’ll what’s involved and I know full well my folks do lots of other stuff outside of what major things I’ve listed there but a lot of stuff they do can be done a bit more efficiently but atm they like doing the bits they do and they can keep doing them as long as they’re willing and able

Your right there. We were building a parlour in 2008 and the quotes were crazy. We were going to go for a second hand machine. The plasterers quote would make your eyes water. I think the price of the machine dropped by almost 10k before we did the deal. Same when I built my house in 2013. It was alot easier talk to fellas.

I hope you don't get the backlash I received when I posted something similar approx 9 years. Maybe some people have taken their heads outa their rear ends since.

Yes huge money has been make since quota was abolished, most of it didn’t stay with the farmer though, last year been the exception.

Amen to all that.

Had a few plasters here recently. Holy **** they earn some money. I’d say they are on the same as a hearth surgeon . I got 3 quotes and not allot in difference. In fairness the crowd I got were excellent. Turned up when they said they would and did a very good quality job so as my dad says a good job is never a dear job it’s only dear the day you pay for it.

no young lads doing the trades anymore. You’d wonder where they are going to get them for the future.

It's the wet trades that are in trouble. No young blood in it anymore. Heaps of young guys doing plumbing and wiring

Heard an older Electrican saying he thinks all the young lads doing the trade now will be jockeying for jobs as they qualify, therefore keeping the wage very competitive for the lad hiring.

I am not so sure. Certification not is big business. Many different sectors require electricians. At present technically all rental houses need an electric certificate every five year and every boiler needs certifications every 12 months. That will be enforced by insurance companies down the line.

Electricians and plumbers will remain in demand

Paid an excellent plasterer €120 a day cash in 2015/2016 to do my house. Probably 3 times that now.

Met him recently and he is after aging unreal. It’s a tough game.

Your spelling says a lot about your intelligence.

You obviously don't understand the point, either.

If a substitute replaces the original, the demand for the original has gone down. It does not matter if the substitute is not the same product as the original.

It's called evolution.

The legislation already exists it enforced for HAP housing. However I gave heard of cases where insurance companies mentioned it in holidays home group insurance schemes.

All I saying it only a matter if time before all rental's houses have to have the already legislated requirements in place for insurance purposes.

It’s a funny one as the price of the original rises the demand for the substitute goes up in theory not sure if that can be said for the oat/almond ‘drink’ alternatives…they have a tiny matket share and little nutritional values they are a substitute in name only, labeled as ‘milks’

During the last recession they did firesale prices. I had a top class carpenter working for €100 per day. That is firesale.

He want to start doing his sums as to what pays or will not pay. Passed a farm lately and it has 50++ unroofed cubicles. Is there not a requirement that all dairy cows must be houses this year or next ???

There is outfit out there that will be dependent on the dairy cow reduction scheme to reduce numbers

Does anyone know the breakdown cost of 1 litre of milk split between the farmer, processor and the supermarket? It's very easy to find the production costs at farm level as well as average incomes but processors and supermarkets share of the pie isn't as transparent. How much does it cost a processor to get that 1 litre of milk on the supermarket shelf?