Two-thirds of Texas Prisons Do Not Have Air-Conditioning Leading to Spiralling Death Toll.

You'd have to be completely ignorant of the American justice system to believe that every single person in a prison is actually guilty of a crime.

Also, since when is death now an acceptable outcome for anybody that ends up in jail? Especially in a state that actually has the death penalty.

They shouldn't be 'comfortable' environments for sure but you shouldn't be dying of heat stroke in them either.

Oh here we go again with the America bashing and it’s not even 12 o clock. Let me tell you buddy if it wasn’t for the USA, Ireland would still be a 2nd world economy and more importantly there would not be peace in Northern Ireland.

The majority of people in prison in the USA are there for good reason and certainly the worst offenders are not what I would consider redeemable Human Beings and deserve everything they have coming to them, maybe you want to invite them into your home for tea and see how that goes.

A case can be made for people serving prison sentences for certain drug offences that I personally don’t believe serves the common good, but every state has it’s own laws and until such time as that changes, as a poster said earlier “if you can’t do the time, then don’t do the crime’

It absolves the state of making the choice but it doesn't completely absolve them. The state still has to execute the person if they chose to be executed in your scenario. Or at very least assist their suicide.

Would you offer the option of death to all inmates or only ones guilty of specific crimes? Where is the line drawn?

Could a suicidal person commit a crime for the purpose of gaining access to your state run elective suicide/execution programme?

From the same lad who's bending over backwards to exonerate the former President.

Nothing you post surprises me.

The US prison system is another piece of evidence on how far away America actually is from being considered the greatest country in the world, as it claims to be. Originating out of systemic racism and now driven by the darkest ideals of unfettered capitalism, the country will eventually look on its implementation with embarrassment. Will probably be decades, if not centuries before they get to that point unfortunately.

That might be valid if so many were not in prison for the crime of being black.

Are you really surprised at the blatant edgelording.

Texas criminal stats don’t support the notion that being a Billy big balls about human rights to prisoners has had a downward effect on recidivism.

These type of people would be the first to complain if Trump served his time in a Texas prison.

extreme heat in the south of the US is not a new thing, it’s getting hotter… be very logistically challenging and risky from a safety perspective I’d imagine to try and retrofit an old prison full of murderers, rapists and miscellaneous violent offenders with aircon…

can’t just give them fans as they’d be used as weapons… so no simple solutions….

anyway, a problem roughly 7500 kilometres away so 🤷‍♂️ Won’t be loosing sleep over it. Especially considering the problems here and the absolute shîtshow this country is turning into.

Prisoner rights and conditions threads rarely get much attention on boards in my experience- just too far down the list of priorities which reflects a lot on society as a whole and how it treats its prisoners.

I do reflect some posters views above- America treats many of it’s prisoners appallingly - it doesn’t matter what your crime or alleged crime is, if you’re poor you’ll probably be doing a fair bit of time.

As for conditions in Texas jails, even the Americans mostly don’t give a darn- and that’s just sad that they’re happy that people already deprived of their freedom for whatever reason have to suffer such inhumanity. Long sentences are the norm for many of these prisoners- 30 to 40 years for crimes they’d be out in less than 10 for in Ireland - that’s serious punishment in itself- roasting them alive isn’t justice it’s torture.

It didn’t take long for someone to prove my point - you might get loads of thanks for that predictable comment which happens every time this topic is raised on boards- no one is saying victims aren’t important here- absolutely no one- but it is possible, but extremely rare, that a full discussion on the proper treatment of prisoners can’t also take place- I take it then you’re in favour of death by heat to all prisoners. Ok you’ve made your point clear.

This hug a thug **** drives me mad as well. There'd be an entirely different tone if those people had someone close to them murdered or raped by some scumbag, I can't imagine they'd be too concerned about the prisoners welfare in that case

I talked to the family and they said they want the perp to spend their entire sentence in prison, not die 1 year into a 30 year sentence from a heat stroke.

Crimes relating to money or drugs?

Such as armed robberies? Shooting someone for drug debts? Burglaries in homes when old aged pensioners live alone?

You find those kind of crimes ok then?

Funny kind of standards you have.

And meanwhile here criminal's rights lobby groups like the Irish Penal Reform Trust and the Irish Council for Civil Liberties complain if Irish prisoners don't have Netflix and ensuite single rooms.

No he did not:

"and a second prison that handles lesser crimes, for example -- those related to money or drugs -- where conditions are less extreme."

So very clearly a 2 tier system where pedos and murderers get a living hell on earth, and 2nd tier which functions like prisons do now. Then you come along:

"Such as armed robberies? Shooting someone for drug debts? Burglaries in homes when old aged pensioners live alone?

You find those kind of crimes ok then?"

Armed robberies/shootings - Tier 1. I'd put the scum who terrorise the elderly there too to be honest. Nowhere did he say those crimes were ok - but you somehow extrapolated that from his comment.

Don't call people liars when it's your own reading comprehension skills that need a bit of work

What was he talking about? Are you their handmaiden?

Drug dealers are the salt of the earth now, up there with embezzlement and stealing your waitresses tips?

These same people elsewhere whine about "2 tiers of justice." You can't make this up.

Thanks- a great post.

You have an Ayn Rand quote about respect for individual liberty and yet you have completely glossed over the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of people currently incarcarated in American jails who have never been found guilty of the crimes they are accused of.

Comical isn't it.