Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

I understand where most of the arguments over trans athletes and their physical advantages come from but … Chess?

”The world’s top chess federation has ruled that transgender women cannot compete in its official events for females until a review of the situation is made by its officials”

That apparently includes stripping former winners of titles if they later transition. I wonder how the Caitlyn Jenner fans feel about that.

Do you think Jenner should be stripped of titles she won as a man?

I agree, chess winners shouldn’t be stripped of their titles.

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How. Surely you’re not going to tell me that an exception exists for Jenners titles but not these Chess titles.

Not quite. Their international ranking remains unchanged, it’s the title however, would change, for what has to be the most blatant example of indicating to women that the organising body considers women inferior that I’ve ever seen an officiating body just come out and say it. They’re French though, so there’s that 😂

Polgar is widely regarded as the world’s greatest women’s player. As noted in a 2010 report from NPR, she never competes in women’s events and has earned the gender-neutral title of Grandmaster. According to the FIDE’s new guidelines, a woman who earned a women’s title could have it transferred to a gender-neutral one.

The issue is that women’s titles are considered less valuable by the FIDE, so a Woman Grandmaster wouldn’t be tranferred a general Grandmaster.

“The abolished women title may be transferred into a general title of the same or lower level (e.g., Woman Grand Master may be transferred into FIDE Master, Women’s International Master into Candidate, etc.)”

A player’s international rating, however, will remain unchanged.

If the rules allowed Jenner to enter the competition at the time then she should not. And I'll apply that to all athletes who compete withing the rules at the time of competing.

Since Jenner is male sex she was perfectly entitled to compete in the male sex category.

Now that I have directly answere you question can you answer mine instead of running away from it like a scalded cat.

Wow so much for sex equality

I actually agree with you there on reading what you have quoted. That's some very bizarre looking logic from FIDE. I don't know enough about the relationships between ranking, titles and (sex or gender, depending on which definition they use) to know if there is some underlying logic there. But unless there is some proven performance advantage for males over females it would appear to be pretty bad alright.

Now, see how easy it is to give a straight answer! Please try doing that when you reply to my questions rather than ignoring it and running away like a scalded cat

Could you provide refernce for these people you claim are studying the influneces of gender (as opposed to sex) on sports performance please.

I could, but as you suggested this is the real world and while others will likely disagree, I like to think of myself as a sane and rational person who isn’t going to waste my time on something that it wouldn’t take you two seconds to search for on Google provided you were actually interested in finding out that information for yourself.

It would simply be a fools errand to provide you with any more entertainment at this point considering you’ve already gone out of your way to undermine everything I’ve presented thus far, your most egregious example being that when I presented evidence of women being harassed in sports, your rebuttal consisted of your not having witnessed it among your peer group, as though if you don’t acknowledge it, it doesn’t exist, or it’s irrelevant.

By the same logic I could have easily suggested you bring your issues with organisations policies to the relevant authority, but I didn’t, at least not so far, because that’s just silly and it’s a shìtty thing to say to anyone who feels that something is unfair, like it’s not the most obvious course of action in any case that would have occurred to them already.

In the case in Canada, the people you need to waste your time with are the Canadian Powerlifting Union, the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport and the Canadian Government. I don’t suggest you’ll be laughed out of the room as I’m not interested in discouraging you from your efforts, I wish you good luck with it 👍

The Canadian Powerlifting Union only recently updated their trans inclusion policy to emphasize that surgery, hormone therapy or even a doctor’s note would not be a requirement for trans athletes to compete in the category consistent with their gender ID. 

“Trans athletes should be able to participate in the gender with which they identify, regardless of whether or not they have undergone hormone therapy,” it reads.

The guidelines hewed extremely close to the official trans recommendations developed by the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport, a group funded almost exclusively by the federal government.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/trans-woman-shatters-female-weightlifting-record/wcm/de70c810-7d61-44a4-9b9c-315fc1e5dab9/amp/

Thanks for that. I suspected that the reasoning would be something like that alright (from my limited understanfing of chess ranking). Do you know the reasoning behind having different awards/ award levels base on whether a player is male or female? That's where more the area that has me questioning the logic, as from my outsider's perspective I can't see why theses differences should/would exist in the first place.

Seems strange to be and tinges of sexism, but I'm not a real chess player.