Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

I referenced Manchester, Standsted and Gatwick to compare the number of nighttime flights and show that night flights are not just unique to Dublin. Dublin is in the middle of Gatwick and MAN (passenger numbers, movements) so the night time operations should be similar. So it can be very much included in this discussion.

We are in the middle of summer season with schools off and most people take leave from work during this time. There’s over 3.4 million passengers using Dublin monthly currently and the above reasons are a big contributer to this figure. Aerlingus in particular have a limited number of aircraft and to facilitate all the destinations people want to go to, late night flights have a part to play.

Many of these late night flights are seasonal and wouldn’t operate at all if they could not fit into these slots.

Malaga and Faro due in around 2am tonight have 4+ flights daily and yet both of these night flights are nearly always full. The demand is there in summer.

Come October and there will be very few arrivals post midnight to 5am once the winter schedule comes in.

I would argue the post midnight flights to 2am play a very important part in summer operations however I would agree that they aren’t necessary in winter schedules.

Regarding TUIs 3:30am arrival. TUI usually do two rotations per day per aircraft from Dublin. They flew to Palma this morning and then Rhodes. The fact that Rhodes is a 4+ hour flight each way is the reason this flight gets in so late. That can’t really be avoided and doesn’t happen that often besides the Tenerife flight. Other option is to leave an aircraft idle from 3/4pm on a Friday and Saturday and two routes less.

Well TUI can't get two slots around 06:00 at DUB and equally Palma is as bad as DUB for slots during the summer on a Saturday. You will be well aware historic slots take precedent.

I don't see any issues with there late arrivals between 00:00-03:00 as it only lasts for around 3 months. Traffic is heavily Irish and most will not take public transport because there isn't any all day never mind at night.

The G spine connecting with the 41 is my normal route to the airport now regardless of what time my flight is. €2 on the bus vs €40+ in a taxi is great!

And yes, the 41 is very busy in the wee small hours with both airport/airline staff as well as passengers. It shows how people will use public transport when provided. Imagine how busy a metro would be!

That is why Aer Lingus offer 3 alternative flights...

Secondly, the same conspiracy can be applied to a flight deparing from 6AM, you know arrivng 2 hours, maybe traveling another 2 hours and then another hour getting ready.

Isn't everyone different, personally I would prefer a late arrival back and where possible avoid an early departure.

An interesting link. Why is responsible for north-runway.com? I'm only a lay person, but they seem well-informed, even though there are some slightly confusing matters of detail. MIles better then the typical crap media reports.

The planning permission conditions attached by An Bord Pleanala dictate that.

Self-described as "a small group of aviation people, most of whom live between 4km and 10km north of the new runway at Dublin Airport."

"Our group includes private pilots, civil engineers and commercial pilots. The commercial pilots work flying jets in and out of Dublin Airport."

No doubt they know what they are talking about, up to a point. However I would be cautious about concluding that pilots are the experts on all matters aviation. In this case the group are hardly an impartial source either.

I fully agree with the poster who stated “just because they are pilots doesn’t mean they are experts here”.

Their proposal has a lot of holes in it, a lot. But essentially yet again it comes down to “just move the noise over there away from us” with the suggestion that 30000 people are currently affected by it 😆 and less will be affected by their suggestion.

Is the building work beside hanger 6 the new gates being built?

Thanks, is this different to the north dock project?

Would have thought a push for contact stands/gates is needed before more remote stands. Are these remote ones when completed going to be used by emerald mostly? How many are being built?

Still no sign of them lodging application to extend terminal capacity beyond 32m either.

Any reason why the north runway not getting used today? Trying to please fingal cc and see how many complaints come in for imaginary planes?

Poor visibility.