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Price gouging by the pub, restaurant & hotel industry

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    €4.80 for a Guinness in Mayo last week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    yeah, 9 euro for a glass of wine, half the size of what I'd pour at home



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭randd1


    Depends on what value you get.

    Our local Chinese last week, we decided to have a takeaway last Friday. Spicy Bag and chicken balls, and a Breast of Chicken in black pepper sauce with Rice and chips. Came to 23 quid. Neither of us could finish it. The guts of 2 chicken breasts in the black pepper sauce. The spicy bag was huge, just packed with shredded chicken and chips. We won't go for a few weeks again, but as a treat once in a while, you can't beat it.

    Compared to a lunch menu downtown which is €20 for a vol-au-vaunt with salad, a small side of chips and a coke, it's practically a bargain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,658 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    We'd bite the hands off you for a pint of Guinness at that price over here in Dublin.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You're wrong.

    There are plenty of pubs in Dublin that sell Guinness for less than 5 euro.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Ah heyor, that article is 8 months old. There have been two increases since then. There's not one pub in Dublin selling a pint of guinness under a fiver. I know of just two selling it at a fiver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭Gusser09




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    Had a cod and chips from the local chipper last night. €13 for a Cod and chips and another €1.90 for a can of Fanta.

    My own fault for being too lazy to get something at home. Theres another thing not to be doing anymore either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,236 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    In a big bowl under the garlic bread. Some feed for 15 quid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,996 ✭✭✭enricoh


    I think the takeaways are making more than restaurants.

    Sister in law got a few pizzas from Domino's for one of the kids birthdays, just under e80, I'd be surprised if the ingredients cost 8. Pure stodge.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    I think you are right. At this point it would be cheaper to eat in a restaurant than a take away. Gastro pubs are a total ripoff too.

    I think we are just going to knock eating out on the head and save the money for trips abroad. I just hate giving over good money for bad value. Wouldnt mind if I got value out of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭Beefcake82


    People need to start voting with their wallets, pick a local chipper/pizza/chinese place over a branded place like dominos or mcdonalds etc.

    The food in many local places is of good quality and portion sizes for price, as example my local chipper a large bag of chips if enough for 3 adults, costs €4.80 and compared to mcdonalds large chips/fries at €3.80 and often they barely fill the carton with enough for a medium size. A year or so ago a regular hamburger in mcdonalds was €1 on their euro saver menu, now €1.80.

    Even better start investing in equipment to cook at home and in the long term reduce your costs even more, a good quality air fryer is a worthwhile investment and low effect to make food if too tired to cook a normal dinner. The money you would save by not ordering take away is worth the investment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Local Chinese takeaway for us is Lily House in Kenmare, one chicken curry with rice, one chicken in blackbean sauce with rice, one spicebag came to 42 euro. Honestly there was about 3 euro worth of chicken between the three. Same order was 26 euro not too long ago and the portions were decent enough.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭I see sheep




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That seemed a pretty small lasagna to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Yeah they are gone to the dogs everywhere. We have just stopped ordering in at this point. Possibly once a month. That's the good thing about Just Eat. You see the total and it's eye watering. A few year ago the 4 of us were getting a chinese for around 30 quid. That is closer to the 50 mark. Not long ago a spice bag was 6 quid. It's 10 quid now.

    The likes of a Spicebag is handy enough to make at home with an Air fryer. Healthier too I'd imagine.

    Edit: My last order

    2 x Spice Bags

    2 x Egg Fried Rice

    1 Prawn Cracker

    1 x Chicken Balls

    1 x Large Curry Sauce

    €45.89

    That's between four of us. A few year ago 1 spice bag done the trick but they have reduced the size significantly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭randd1


    | Yeah they are gone to the dogs everywhere. | 

    Might explain some of the quality. I thought my last "chicken" curry in our previous local was as much terrier as terrible.

    You can buy a bad of frozen hot & spicy shredded chicken in Aldi for around €4 (I think). Cook in the oven, through some frozen chips in the air-fryer. Slice a few not so hot few chilli peppers and a small carrot very thinly, soak them for about 30 seconds in hot water, and flash fry them on the pan in a tiny amount of spray oil, stirring constantly so they don't burn and stick for about 90 seconds.

    When they're done, mix them altogether on a plate. Sprinkle some salt, paprika and a tiny bit of Chinese-five-spice over it while mixing it.

    Voila, a home-made spicy bag for two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    What really pisses me off is them charging for views ... Kerry Cliffs, Mizen head etc ... an absolute f*ckin disgrace ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    That's exactly what we do. Can't beat it. 4 portions for the price of one in the local Chinese.

    Replace the salt / Parika / Five spice for Funky Money spice bag mix though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    I was once asked to pay for parking at the Cliffs Of Moher. I googled them instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭getoutadodge


    Agree. I ditched Dominoes when a single pizza hit the 20 Euro mark. Never again. Same with all take outs really with the traditional cod and chips gone off the charts. Even a simple toastie in a pub has been "embellished" to rip off levels. Pubs in Chapelizod and Kildare recently tried to hit me for 12 e...so done with that too. Fortunately I cook all my own food these days and only go abroad for holidays. I got badly stung ten years back with two kids in tow (hired car, hotels, food, tours and entry charges etc.) topped off with the car being vandalised by junkies in Westport. Never ever again. Thank you Ryanair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,236 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Perhaps the photo didn't do it justice but it was a great feed for the price.

    Anyway I'm doing hotel bar food with work again. Not paying thank fook. Mad money for average fare. Had a Thai green chicken curry recently in a so called "resort". Hardly any sauce or taste. Chicken was dry and chewy. I'd say it was in the freezer for months. Dreadful stuff. 20 quid.

    My go to Chinese takeaway is still rock solid and affordable for now. Slight price increase but reliable. A recent Supermacs breakie was disgusting. I left it and demanded my money back. Absolute muck. It's a race to the bottom lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,167 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I'm going on holidays next month for a couple of weeks. My FLIGHTS and accommodation to TOKYO was 300 euros more expensive that the equivalent hotel stay in Dublin and that was including breakfast. And this is just a Holiday Inn. Not a 1 star place, but not exactly top tier either. I'm staying in an equivalent hotel type in an area called Ueno. I know the area quite well and it has great transport links (Direct train to Narita airport and 3 subway lines and JR Ring rail). 30 min walk to Akihabara, 30 min was to Asakusa. Nice area.

    Now the exchange rate is working in my favour but still. This is relatively "Off-Season" in Ireland and relatively "On-Season" in Japan.

    Yes, costs are high but the predatory pricing and then wailing and screeching about post pandemic impact on business irritates me. Especially anywhere near city centres. Many small and old rural and suburban pubs have gone to the wall and I do feel for them. They really were destroyed by C19 and general costs rising. But hotels? Nope. Not one single ounce of sympathy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭crusd


    The whole chips in a bucket and lasagne in a bowl thing is a gimmick to make a half empty plate look full, and food that is relatively inexpensive to appear premium. Why not just bake the lasagne in a large tray, as intended, and put them an the chips straight on the plate. What you have there is four prices of dinnerware where only 1 is needed. Ridiculous. And adding unnecessary cost. There is nothing on that plate that is complex for a kitchen to prepare. A better value option, without any compromise on quality, could easily be achieved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    I tried the new McDonalds crispy chicken deluxe.

    I was looking forward to a plump and juicy burger, like in the advertisement.... its not.

    690c for a flat and soggy piece of crap.



  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭LBF21


    our local chipper has put the price up on Chips at least 3 times in the last year. 3.90 a bag now. The 5 euro bag of chips can't be far off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Apparently the price of a bag of Maris Pipers has shot up to around 25 euro. Crazy price and another rip-off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭LBF21


    also yet to get to the bottom of why chippers not doing smoked cod anymore but still doing fresh cod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Was in Kilmuckridge about 2 weeks ago, decided we'd go out for dinner on the Wednesday night, and tried to book a table on Monday evening/Tuesday morning for the Wednesday night....

    Everything booked out.... on a Wednesday! (even as far as Gorey!)

    We ended up chancing walking in to a local hotel, and we got a seat (had we been 5 mins later we'd have had to wait). Food in the Hotel was rotten (1/10). I ordered a pulled pork burger and what came out was chopped up ham with BBQ sauce on it, in a bundies bun. (€14 please!)

    This idea that Restaurants / Pubs are in serious trouble is rubbish. Pubs are closing because people have a bit more cop on now than to be drinking a skinfill of beer.

    We need controls and regulation that stop these lobbying groups crying out "Times are tough" when in fact they're more lucrative than ever!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    I would avoid chicken and stick with beef at McDonald's

    Fast food chicken is garbage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Why or how would you regulate lobby groups saying things ?

    That's basic free speech .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    It should always be ensured that when the likes of AAI or Vintners are on the radio they have someone from the consumers side to challenge them. That just hasn't happened and they get to pedal what they want. As I've said the long winter months are coming. They will run out of Yanks to crucify soon enough and will be whinging that the locals have copped on to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Blatant lies/Fake news or what ever you want to call it are a major issue thee days.

    I'm not at all in favour of limiting peoples speech, but by the same token I'm not in favour of people who make heaps of money come on the airwaves and tell lies that they're about to go out of business, and they need need tax cuts and what not.

    Like I just did a very quick Check there on booking.com for the 21st - 22nd Jun 2024 vs 28th - 29th Jun 2024 (date of Taylor Swift)

    The prices are at least doubled for hotels close to the Avivia, and there's plenty of availability for both weekends.

    If you're caught gouging, you should lose low hospitality tax rate. I think that's fair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    I put a link up the other day to a 25kg bag that was about €16. And that's retail prices for 1 bag. A commercial enterprise buying in bulk pays not much more than half that, I'd say.



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    €4.50 for a measly slice of bakewell today in a Dublin suburb cafe. Never again will I go in to that place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Price gouging is an ongoing thing since covid. I know it's not pub/restaurant but my hairdresser increased prices to cover Covid protection/cleaning products , then for increase in electricity prices then announced they might have to increase again if VAT rate changed.

    All seem valid reasons until Covid stopped being an issue but prices didnt drop to reflect this

    Before Covid I could get hair colour/cut for 65 Euro but now has increased to 86 so needless to say home colour is on trend in my house . Not a hope will I pay that in a rural hairdressers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,878 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Was charged €2.50 for two slices of brown bread, not soda bread, but just sliced pan brown bread in a Limerick hotel to accompany my starter which wasn't soup, even Brennans or Pat the Baker full pan is cheaper

    Dunnes Stores Cafe in Bishopstown Cork do a breakfast, 5 items plus tea or coffee and 2 slices of toast for 5.75 or 5.99, great bargain



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Why do so many people in this thread eat in hotels?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,083 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...well its either free meals of they have the disposable income to do so....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Just think its weird that if you have the disposable income to do so you'd spend it in a hotel restaurant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,083 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...shur why not, if you ve worked for it, you can do what you want with it, and some hotel meals are bloody nice....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Problem with Ireland this year is because the weather is so **** that there is literally nothing else to do other than eat out or go on the piss. So every restaurant is jammed all the time and can easily increase prices and cut corners on quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    And that's why nothing will change. Until the public vote with their feet the prices will continue to rise

    Look on booking.com for a hotel anywhere in the country for a weekend and the prices are huge but a lot of places are booked out. We just accept the increases and carry on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,083 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...tis all relative, yup its been a pretty sh1te summer, but don the wet gear and get out there....

    some people have the money, some dont, if you re waiting for the masses to force the change, you might be waiting!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,658 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Everyone has their limit though.

    The "industry" is in for a bit of a shock when all the tourists aren't here to be fleeced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    We are getting record numbers passing through the ports this year. So there is no drop in the flow of folks coming into the country. Quite the opposite.

    Sounds like overall tourism is down a little vs peak pre covid, though Dublin is constantly opening new hotels and they all seem full.

    Also still plenty of locals out spending 7 euro a pint without a flicker.

    Some of the best eateries in the city are in hotels, so non guests will of course eat there.

    in short, there will be no price dropping in the short term, in Dublin at least.



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Inexpensive Meteorite


    Even for Temple Bar this is scandalous...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Deub


    Out of curiosity I checked my emails for out local Chinese takeaway. I don’t think they do price gouging but had to increase due to various cost. I always take the same thing so it is easy to compare. Price of crispy chicken satay with chips:

    May 2011: 7.20€

    May 2020: 9.00€

    May 2023: 12:80€

    That’s an initial increase of 25% in 9 years (2011-2020) and an additional increase of just over 42% only in the last 3 years (2020-2023).



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