No Reduction in USC in Budget - Mod warning post #261

Yes and im going to make my first collection next week (hopefully, assuming this birth cert is the last thing they ask for and they start giving me collection dates) and then im off on holidays during dates i will know are going to be collection days (thats if you and others here are correct and there is a chance of them refusing. Im pretty sure you are wrong tbh). So I already asked and they said it will be fine. When I actually get all sorted out and given actual collection dates and the money is flowing and then I say, i wont make the next few collection dates, im off on holiday for those dates, can you give an alternative - i'll know for absolute sure at that point wont i?

I really dont understand why you are grasping at straws here. I was pretty clear I thought. Do I have to spell everything out in minute detail in case I put a wrong word in somewhere? God help me on my spelling mistakes in that case. But sure if thats all you have, go for it. Pretty sad for you though that you go through sentences typed in that detail and thats your lot. You have a desperate top be right here dont you? Sad.

I also find it incredible that DSP means tests for the likes of carers allowance is carried out on the partners gross salary. Not net salary. Again though it's only really working families and working people who get crucified by the Revenue and DSP.

This is where your complete lack of research shows you up yet again.

The details on the rules around holidays (max two weeks per year) and also on collections (in person, within 3 days of issue at the post office) are very specific.

The information has been posted and linked for you on the thread if you are in any doubt of it's validity, and the civil servants in DSP do not have discretion to work outside these rules.

I don't need to "prove I'm right" about what is clearly stated on the DSP website and in the Operational Guidelines for jobseekers payments.

The only person grasping at straws here, is yourself.

Maybe you should consider taking up writing, once you do something about your grammar and spelling. I'd say you could write some fabulous fairytales. 🧚‍♂️

Yes, you do. You have to collect your money in the post office in person, with your PSC card that shows its you doing the collecting, every week. If you don't collect the money within 3 days of it being issued to the post office its returned to the DSP, the money doesn't wait for you.

As DownByTheGarden is going to rather hilariously find out, despite his claimed months of planning.

You really don't pay attention to details, so you?

30+ years career civil servant here, and earning enough that if I wanted to flitter about taking loads of holidays, I could retire legitimately and do so, without having to scam the State in order to pay for it.

But sure, throw all the personal insults you want, it's water of a duck's back to me. Your descent into such childish behaviour merely demonstrates you're losing your carefully fabricated facade. Nor did I mention your spelling or grammar until you did.

I have definitely touched a nerve!

30+ years career civil servant here. That explains a lot :)

No wonder you are the only one who thinks the civil service are efficient. All the while living off the the disgraceful taxes we have to pay to fund your wages. I knew you were overly triggered at the prospect of the tax take taking a hit. Now I see why. Sure its less to go into your pocket for doing SFA all day. Have you got much done the last few days while you were furiously looking up links on the web to frighten me with?

Am I seriously the only one who is sick of the amount of taxes I pay and it being wasted on master investigators like you? Surely not.

Unlike you, I am not going to descend to your level by making this personal.

I have merely posted easily verified facts, as per the DSP operational guidelines on jobseekers payments.

You have a nice rest of your day now, and be sure to send us all a postcard from all your fantasy travels. 🤣

Hello Mods!!!

This thread has not seriously off topic....

If the scamming the dole scheme guy wants to start his own thread then go ahead, but this is about No reduction in USC....

You are right. Was just explaining how im reacting to the broken promises and high taxes. So I got taken off topic with all the armchair experts telling me its impossible to have a good life while collecting taxes instead of supplying them. Im one of 10s of thousands. and the number is growing. why? Because people are sick of being bled for tax in this country. Ive lots of friends and colleagues eager to see how i get on and all ready to join me once I prove its doable.

Still posting your nonsense even after promising to leave the thread alone and focus on your imaginary private messages of congratulations instead!

Still claiming that you are not doing anything wrong or not committing a crime when you have described in detail how you plan to defraud the social welfare system and also hide income from the revenue system....ehhh that is wrong and is a crime.

Still playing the martyr 'net contributor' angle, you know there are hundreds of thousands (maybe millions?) of us who are net contributors? there would not be any public services otherwise.

Deluded.

Jesus lads have no brains to engage between you.

At the end of the I am finished with paying tax. years of hard work and earning have put me in a position where I can now choose how I live my life, be it working or not. I feel I am owed a lot of tax back as what i got in return for it over the years is a pittance compared to what other people get, yet I seem to me paying another tax each year and promises of abolishing of the USC never were kept.

So what have I done. I have engineered a situation where we can get €20k a year or our tax back and use the already taxed money weve saved and put away over the years to live on and not have to give up 45 hours each a week for only half of what we earn. Its not like im the first person in the country to get JB and have other hidden means now is it. More like the 100,000th

So keep sitting there on the ditch sniping all you like but the simple fact is Ive left the work force. I no longer will be paying tax (well ill be paying a little, but not much compared to what I was).

What I am doing is the result of failed promises to help those who get up in the morning yada yada yada. Now im not getting up in the morning anymore. Enough.

Pretty sure im not the only person who feels they have been rode as a tax payer either. Im sure you are all delighted with the taxes you pay and what you get for it and feel free to keep giving up half of any bonus, overtime etc.

So yes, i am finishing explaining how im doing it since you keep coming back and picking holes in it. If you have half a braincell and just read my posts, everything is there for you to understand how it is being arranged. Im not the only one who can explain to you how to reverse your tax paying either. There are lterally hndreds of thousands of people you can ask ho wits possible.

So Sconsey, if you really want to go back on topic then just read all my previous posts, get any info you need from there (its all there) and stop answering me with stupid posts, and just post what you think or what you are doing about no reduction in USC in the Budget. Ive posted whet im doing. What are you doing?

Sure it's ok. I'd miss not having a full A4 page as my payslip with all of the taxes.

🤣 Christ

I still think your whole story is made up but anyway just to play along -

'sitting there on the ditch sniping all you like...'

Every single post you make is you 'sniping' about the unfair system 😥

A system that has allowed you to accumulate a load of money from a cushy civil service job, yet you're still raging about how working life has been unfair to you.

You probably got that job straight out of college and have been on the civil service gravy train straight away, never lost your job during recessions, never had to struggle.

You probably bought a house when they were cheap in the early 90s but consider yourself a real estate guru because your house has quadrupled in value.

You've had an easy life and instead of being thankful you just whinge non-stop about people on the dole 🤣 while planning to scam the dole yourself.

I didn't say anything about getting back on topic. I couldn't care less about the USC.

DBTG is most definitely not a civil servant.

If he was, he'd be much better informed on the conditions of Jobseekers payments and he'd also know how to read the operational guidelines - or even Citizens Information which has the basics.

He wouldn't be here freaking out and word vomiting because the many flaws in his "engineered situation" are being pointed out to him.

The guy actually thinks he will be able to swan off on as many trips as he likes, and that DSP will be happy to work around his jaunts and arrange alternative collection dates to suit him.

That is not how it works. The limit is two weeks max absence is permitted from the State, in any 12 month period. So while he may be allowed one trip, he will not be allowed multiple absences from the State while collecting JSB.

As someone else phrased it above "that annoying must be available for, and seeking full time work" condition.

What a car crash of a thread. Is there a fantasy writers section on boards it could be moved to?

Landlords leaving the market are not deliberately defrauding the state.

that's the difference.

Im not doing anything hundreds of thousands arent doing. And the higher the taxes in this country the more will do the same.

You're not declaring the income. You are lieing to the social welfare saying you have no savings and no income. You have both. If revenue or social welfare get a sniff of it they could audit you, and then your house of toilet paper collapses.

I have no income from it. Have you not been reading above either. How would my neighbors know how much saving i do or dont have? your post above about how my neighbors are going to report me. Your statement. Stay on the subject. The question was "Tell me what the neighbors are going to report that is illegal?".

Oh Please. You are the type of person who was probably posting this before 2018 if you heard some say something you didnt like

"Impious or profane speaking of God or sacred things'' as banned by the second of the Ten Commandments and the Irish Constitution under Article 40.6.1.i. The Article bans "the publication or utterance of blasphemous, seditious, or indecent matter", offences "which shall be punishable in accordance with law".

Ill be shaking going on my holidays as im sure hundreds of thousands of people are who go through the airports who dont work. Get over yourself.

"Dear Revenue, my neighbor DBTG is earning income renting out his house (I believe he is also claiming social welfare), you should investigate this to make sure he is declaring the rental income. Thanks for making it so easy for me to report."

...from there you are screwed, they see a bank account with savings moved out (where is that money? have you not paid DIRT? or worse you paid DIRT which would immediately hi-light your means-test lies, etc?), they see transactions for purchasing flights, paying bills that far exceeds the dole money, how are you paying for groceries? with cash? what cash? etc etc. If (and it is an 'if') they get a sniff of you, then you are screwed, they pay external accounting/auditing firms to investigate, and they are not fools.

So please explain how that applies to me. There will be cars parked on my drive. There are two there now as we speak. One a Hertz hire car. What are the neighbors going to report that is going to get me in trouble? Lets assume they know its an airbnb guest, because they actually do know. So what is a random neighbor going to say that will get me in trouble?

Hello Mr Revenue, Yes my FIL and MIL are doing Airbnb in my house. I hope thats ok with you as i am on JB and am unemployed at the moment. My FIL and MIL are declaring their airbnb income and are taxed accordingly as im sure you know as you are revenue. Do you want to see my bank account? I have some savings there. not much, but i believe i am allowed to have this much according to the social welfare rules. Is that OK too? Sorry some idiot wasted your time, but sure they probably just were annoyed at the hertz car parked outside. hope thats ok too. It looks like my neighbor here thinks that you are the detectives from Line of duty and want to forensically check my spending and holidays etc. Do you really do that on the say so of a curtain twitcher?

Is the tax payer really paying for your level of intelligence in the civil service? you have uncovered a big secret that a neighbor is doing the cleaning when im not able to, a big secret that I told you about in post number 41. Hint:its not a secret - you just cant read and prefer jumping to conclusions instead of keeping up, as it makes you feel smarter than you actually are.