Ian Garry

I've been following him since the amateur days, he's special, a natural talent, only 25, will only improve training in the USA. He made the absolute right move there as much as I like Fields and King.

Potentially can go to the same level as McGregor, whether he will is another matter.

Either way I can see him been a top competitor in the UFC WW division for a while, he belongs there, he absolutely blitzed the regional scene.

Bannon is a her. Fought last week in London. You made a comment at the time about potentially great MMA women playing Rugby, Gaelic etc

Natural ability is a bit of a myth. It's a highly technical sport and the "naturals" at a pro level, tend to simply be those with more experience of training time. I'm sure he works hard, he did the right thing going to the states. I wish he does well. But I'm not yet convinced yet that is is god enough to the top of the division, let alone stay there. He's grappling is untested and there are not very good grapplers in his division.

Cage Warrior is not a top flight promotion. True the champion is normally good enough to cross over to the UFC. But they often do so with glaring holes in their game (Paddy Pimblett). Many others have some in with similar hype and been de-railed.

FFS the Neal fight is off, shame as it was one of the best fights on the card and a real challenge for Ian.

Dunno the replacement for Ian, Magny is been speculated about, not a bad fighter but a step down from Neal unfortunately.

Other than rankings, which are much regency bias. Why do you think Magny is a step down?

This is nowhere near a steamroll fight

Natural abilities exist. Strength, agility, coordination. People that excel on multiple traits tend to pick to sports more easily. We all know a kid that was good at all sports.

But I’m talking about the idea that pro athletes get to the top on natural ability, especially in highly technical sports.

GSP was a natural athlete. He also probably put in more work than everyone else in the division.

Garry is talented. He has looked better and promising. But I’m not convinced he is putting in the mist work possible for this camp. I know social media isn’t real life and all. But he seems more like a holiday in Brazil with the wife and baby.

Yeah I think it's probably better to fight Magny then fight Neal afterwards. More experience the better and no rush into the top 5 either.

Sure didn't Magny beat him a couple of years ago?

I'd like Garry to fight and hopefully beat both. 2 good different tests

You could definitely see him winning those three and then just skipping the queue, straight into a title fight and avoiding the other top contenders altogether, ala Darren Till. The higher ups seem to be handling him carefully so you’d imagine they’re very high on him.

Not alone at all. I found the step down, running through comments to be a bit bizarre. Struck me as based entirely on current rankings - hence the question above.

Magny is a well known, and most wins ever at 170 IIRC. He is a good (but boring) wrestler and has derailed many fighters. He is 4-2 (inclusive) since his fight with Neal. He is coming off a win.

Neal is ranked higher (meaningless imo). But is 2-2 since the Magny fight (and 2-3 in last 5). He is coming off a loss here. He is more of a striker, that works better for Garry, so overall I think Neal is the easier opponent.

Magny on short notice is obvious more favourable than full camp Magny. But Garry has also been preparing for a totally different fighter stylistically.

He has improved from CW days to now. But breaking the top 15 is not time to take the foot off the gas.

He hasn't been in the US for the build u to this fight. He's in Brazil.

KillCliff is a Henri Hooft and Greg Jones's team after leaving Blackzillians a few years have. This is their 4th rebranded name as they take sponsorship rights to the gym's name. Kill Cliff is a energy drink.

I physically cringed watching it. It was awful stuff.

Wouldn't go as far as to say I want Magny to win, but he needs to seriously drop the act.

There's nothing wrong with playing a character or playing up your personality or whatever, but Garry fails spectacularly at both in those moments.

He will probably say "he is been a heel " etc but its so cringe its near unwatchable.

Mc Gregor at his peak was infuriating, childish but also quite funny , authentic (sometimes ) and was a compelling presence.

This guy is a fine fighter but its all really forced isn't it?

O Malley who was on stage is also somewhat annoying but I find him much more authentic as he is just been himself.

Magny is a pretty boring fighter so a win for him doesn't do much for the division as he is cannon fodder for the elite.

Its a division that needs new blood desperately so for that reason I will cheer on Garry.

He is annoying, but he's probably not a bad bloke when he's not trying to be Conor so I won't mind him winning and tbf I have enjoyed his run in UFC so far also.

He's easy enough to block out social media wise anyway tbf.

Not Garrys biggest fan but this is cool.

He's a big name now after that. Seriously impressive performance.

Magny showed terrible fight IQ out there. He’s a blanket, he’s boring. He knows that’s his strength, but he attempt zero decent takedowns - the opportunities where there

He attempted two on the cage. But they were pretty bad attempts. He caught a left at one point, but just held it instead of dragging him down.

The biggest effort he made to turn it into a ground fight was buttscooting repeatedly after being dropped.

Awful thing to say/admit to beating his 3 year old son. Hopefully that comment/admission doesn't go unchecked.