RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

And Fionnán Sheehan has churned out another steaming pile of excrement in defence of Ryan, you don’t even need to go beyond the paywall as in his opening line he’s likened Bakhurst to Stalin “Stalin wiped all traces of his enemies from the history books. Ryan Tubridy has been purged from the corridors of RTÉ already.”. What an absolute w⚓️.

It feels like a south county dublin civil war.

Sheehan is trying to ride both horses it seems. He is looking a little foolish now.

‘No severance pay’ for former top-earner Ryan Tubridy, says RTÉ

pay walled so only quoted the headline.

Are there any long term contractors who could educate me as to whether it’s normal or usual to not get severance pay as a contractor? IE it’s not the same as being made redundant was always my understanding. I do some contract work part time outside my normal (Paye) job and if the entity said they no longer wanted/needed me I don’t get any severance pay and that’s understood by all. But maybe there are exceptions or precedents elsewhere?

I’m genuinely not sure. It’s relevant to the thread topic as if it’s completely the norm for contractors to not receive severance pay them this is just another crap article by the Indo pretending RTÉ are doing something cruel or scandalous to RT.

But other than that most of their content is quite poor. As a public broadcaster RTE should have a priority for irish documentary and arts.

I'll just leave this here.

With its Stickies/Workers Party infestation problem, RTE should be used to Stalinistic revisionism by now. :)

Regards...jmcc

Journal are running a poll on whether RTE were right to not bring back Tubridy, currently showing 60% Yes versus 30% No.

Not as reliable as a proper poll obviously.

I think that we can finally draw a line under Ichabod Hobbidy, and his jolly japes (that is, until he inevitably pops up again to have his say-and he will, but probably after he decides whether to go the legal route or not).

However, now is the time to watch RTE (not necessarily their output, but their actions), to see if Mr. Bakhurst will grasp the mettle, and execute real change within the org.

The ending of the contract will be determined by what's in the original one. There is no set way to end a contract, they can have many different options, and compensation will depend on clauses in each individual contract.

I personally do only contract work and it depends on your ability at the time to negotiate. So one of my longest standing ones has zero compensation if they shut down a project early. I get paid for the work that I do up to that point, nothing more. I accepted that in the contract at the time, as I was starting out and was desperate for the work. Nowadays I will work in some form of compensation if a project is pulled early.

What was never initially clear with Tubridy was that was he on a contract for radio and TV combined, or were they two separate ones that had (e.g.) €250K each. It seems now that it was the former. When he quit the LLS in May, the radio one would have run out around the same time.

As the LLS runs Sept-May, I assume his contract runs to May 31st or June 30th or similar. We also know it was due to run to 2025. It often happens that you start working on a new, follow-on contract before it is fully ,signed. In this case (if there had been no scandal) Tubridy could have presented in June, July and August without signing the new contract until September. It's a sort of good faith agreement between the two parties.

I doubt RTE would have made any rash steps without full legal advice on the matter. It's also possible that they are willing to pay a break clause to get Tubridy out the door, but it seems that this is not needed.

There will also be a clause in there that any loss of reputation to RTE can result in a termination, this would surely apply here.

But I think that the old contract ended in May/June when Tubridy finished his last LLS, and this was done unequivocally by Tubridy in a public announcement back in March.

He may actually have to pay back the €150,000. That's another matter, but i think he may be asked to do some work in lieu of that in the future as a way of getting him back into Montrose.

Is he taking the position that sells mostpapers

Sheehan has always been a servile little creep of limited journalistic ability. I’d give no creedence to his utterances.

Good stuff Breener, real radio folks like ourselves can see these little nuances.

People usually hang themselves because of their ego- they can’t let go.

Ask Ryan!!

Define 'wrong'? It can refer to different things. Legal, professional, ethical, moral, reputational, contrary to your own self interest.

Because most people seem to think Tubridy was wrong not to correct the declaration of his earnings, and was wrong to make public statements that created a false impression of what pay cuts he had taken. It seems like at least half of his RTE colleagues agree. So there is a significant body of public opinion that is of that view, which is especially important to someone, as you note, dependent on their reputation.

Also that body of opinion sees it as wrong for him \ his agent to submit falsely described invoices so that the payments would avoid proper scrutiny in RTE.

It's not the best deal if it has to be done under the counter, and when it emerges into the light, destroys your reputation. So it wasn't even in his long term selfish self interest, as you allude to - it blew up on him and he should have foreseen that.

All the more so that, as we've seen, he is not of such talent he could swan off to London or US. All the more reason not to take such chances with what was a small sum in comparison to his core earnings.

So yes, no sympathy that a chancer has been found and it is a good thing imo he has been found out. No just a chancer, but someone with an obliviously inflated sense of their own worth and ego.

I don't think anyone has suggested RTE's problems - that may have begun with the Tubridy scandal - end there.

I think it would have been really interesting to see how his radio numbers would have fared if he returned next month.