People wanting to look younger and cosmetic procedures **Mod Note in Post #77**

I don't really understand it. It's so obvious and sad that it's become normalised.

It's like printing off a load of monopoly money and telling people you are rich

The lips are an absolute joke to be honest, but the girls that get them done think they look the business. Sorry girls but ye don't, ye just look silly

When a man dyes his hair it's as obvious as feck, problem is when they get older trying to ween themselves off it so they don't have jet black hair in their 80's. One major league so to speak TD in his 40's here has started with the jet black, it's going to end in tears.

Good botox you won't even notice. Bad lip filler is everywhere, unfortunately. And yes, the fake eyelashes that make everyone with them look like a Sindy doll from the 80s. Blame Instagram. People want to look like they've a filter on in real life. I think they look ridiculous too but like most trends, it'll pass as they grow out of it.

I love a bit of botox, doesn't completely get rid of the wrinkles just smoothes them out a bit. I get it on the forehead and for downturned mouth.

Fillers, not a fan to be honest. Now never say never if my lip volume drastically reduced I might try it once to get me back to where I was but that would be it.

Whilst there are some body changes I would like I'm relatively healthy and well a functioning healthy body so why alter it.

David Cameron?

My favourite is the girls who fake tan so darkly that it comes across like a minstrel show.

Bill Burr said would you rather be 40 and look 40 or would you rather be 40 and look like a 30 year old lizard?

I hate fake tan, false nails, fake eyelashes, the mad eyebrow tattoos and ratty hair extensions.

A lot of women walk around looking like they need a good scrub, I'm at a loss as to why they think it's attractive, especially when they go for the full house. And then there's the fools, men included, who have their teeth filed down to cover them with veneers you could see from space.

I've seen good and bad botox though.

Botox, fillers, etc are common enough.

There's a real variety of people choosing to get these procedures done from stay at home mums, shop workers to Nurses, teachers.

You'd be surprised at some of the ones who have it done.

Cosmetic surgery became more affordable, more socially acceptable and procedures have improved significantly over the last few decades. It’s now possible for people who always wanted to get work done to do so, that they can actually feel as good as they look, and maintain their looks for longer than was previously possible with non-surgical cosmetics. Like non-surgical cosmetics though, surgical cosmetics requires maintenance and top-ups, but people can go for longer periods between procedures.

It is crazy seeing young good looking women get lip fillers and botox, no need whatsoever and they look worse after it. The lips sometimes look like the person just had an allergic reaction to a bee sting or something.

crazy stuff.

I've NEVER looked at a pretty girl with no procedure done and thought 'oh she's hot, it's a shame about the lips'.

But I invariably ALWAYS say to myself when I see a naturally pretty young one after getting obvious lip filler 'oh she's hot, it's a shame about the lips though'.

I blame Barbie.

I was waiting for this.

You won't notice it's been "done" the way you would a full frozen face, bad lip filler, etc. If someone you know has had good botox done you'll just think they look great in a way you can't quite put your finger on.

Someone you meet for the first time who's already had good botox? You won't have a clue that they used to just look a bit more tired/angry/whatever.

I have a really prominent frown-line between my brows (an "I want" line, as Stephen King calls it). It makes me look like I'm furious even in repose and my make-up migrates into it as the day goes on and makes me look like a Greek theatre mask. I get botox on that one single area about once a year and it just unclenches my whole face, but in a really subtle way.

As it happens, botox is also a really effective treatment for people who suffer from excessive sweating.

She ws probably over filled or took a reaction and had swelling. The problem with fillers is that theyre unregulated so anyone can buy them online and administer them, its very dangerous because they dont understand fillers and they dont know the anatomy of the face so anything can go wrong. Professionals are only just learning that fillers never fully dissolve and that information hasnt reached allot of the untrained & unprofessional beauty therapists administering the fillers so they over fill thinking it will make the effects last longer when really theyre creating damage to the lips and causing the filler to migrate to other parts of the face as it cant fit in the small area its been placed in. Theres so much pressure on girls to look a certain way, especially with instagram and I dont care what anyone says, the girls with the big fake lips and lashes and fake tans are always the ones getting attention from fellas, the natural girls see that and it can make them feel insecure and like they need to get all these things done or else they dont feel attractive enough. I honestly think its a fad and they'll look back at photos of themselves and cringe, like the massive eyebrow trend, shell tracksuits or mullets.

Its a reflection of how vain and self obsessed our Instagram generation has become. And its an endless pointless cycle. People argue that if it makes you feel good go for botox, tummy tuck etc but its such an unstable foundation. Its never enough...botox leads to more analysis and an attempt to "fix" all your flaws. Before you know it, you are spending thousands on clothes, fashion tips, gyms, fancy diets, basically making the beauty industry a fortune.

The dieting industry is the biggest con on the planet but not enough people can see through it. 95% of people who lose weight cant keep it off by dieting. However its the only industry in the world which blames the customer for failing. If a tablet had a 95% failure rate you wouldnt go near it, yet millions of people hand over their cash to Unislim, Noom, diet books, wellness courses etc etc.

We all get old, thats life. Better to face your natural older self than running pointlessly from nature.

To be honest I always assume women with all this cosmetic surgery are easy. saw a group lately, in their 20s, all lips done, boob jobs, lashes, tan, one was wearing what looked like a bra in the pissing rain. They thought they were the best thing since sliced bread but any guy with his head screwed on wouldnt go near them in my opinion.