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COYGIG - Women’s Football World Cup 23 **Mod Warning in Post #58**

  • 06-07-2023 10:32am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    The women’s World Cup starts on the 20th July with Ireland playing on the opening day against joint hosts Australia. They are in Group B - Australia, Canada, Nigeria, Rep. of Ireland. 

    I have to admit that I’m an occasional football watcher but I do love the World Cup. I think the girls deserve our support so I plan on getting bunting, etc, this weekend and doing up the outside of the house. Will you be getting into the spirit and cheering them on?

    As I said, I’m not knowledgeable on who is who so I’d love to see some posts about the players so I’m better informed before kick off. 

    🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    Won't be watching, Derry had to remove their manager due to unsubstantiated rumors yet vera gets a pass despite an investigation finding her culpable for abuse of young players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    I’m gonna have to look into the Vera story a bit more as you’re not the first person to mention it.

    It shouldn’t be used against the players though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    If players supporting her as they haven't asked her to step aside then they are condoning her actions. Look at the recent interview with the team captain , it isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of her leadership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord


    Are these the 'up the RA' ladies?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    This is the World Cup so, like the men’s comp, there are teams from across the world competing. I plan on watching as many games as I can.

    But the answer to your question is - yes. But it is a catchy tune.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,658 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    You mean the comments made while sitting beside Vera and saying that it's nothing out of the ordinary to have disagreements with your manager? That they're used to her management style?

    You think the captain should reverse Saipan it and have the manager sent home the week before the world cup?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    Plenty of MLS females would wish they the girls in green would support them considering the stuff she has been alleged to do. She is been enabled by the fai and Irish team to continue her "methods".





  • A few points right off the bat

    Firstly I gave the OP greenlight to open a thread here because they (and a few others) were unhappy it was moved to general sports. You'll have to liaise with the mods there if you want it closed off OP.

    Secondly I’m not going to tolerate this thread being turned into “but Vera Pauw”, If you want to discuss Vera, start a thread about her. If you’re in this thread it’s to discuss the womens soccer team and the womens World Cup.

    thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,766 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    How big a deal will this be with Joe public?

    We Irish love a bandwagon so I'm sure this will be no different when it comes to column inches in the media and soundbites from the public.

    The core demographic for this will be young girls and I think the game times are good in that regard, 11am and 1pm on weekdays when they are off school.

    But I don't think the traditional soccer watching demographics (males from pre teen to old age) will be that pushed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,658 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    Joe public has gotten pretty big into recent hockey and rowing tournaments because Irish are doing well. This is much bigger than that. In fact I'd say the demographic would skew more towards males from pre-teen to old age than women of the same demographic in a lot of cases here which is as ever a shame but is improving all the time.

    At least people will probably watch the matches this time which is more than you can say for the likes of the Katie Taylor bandwagon in recent years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    My girls are in Perth so I bought a few tickets for the Canada v Ireland game as it’s being played there. Few of their mates said they’d go too. Then their boss didn’t want to miss out on a night out either (it’s at 8pm Oz time) and has also bought tickets 😂

    The tickets cost me less than 25 euro each.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    My brother is a big fan of the women’s game and not just for the leg watching. He watched the euros and said that some games were top class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,388 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I mean, fans aren't gonna tell you the games are crap but they like watching anyway. However, like the mens side, zero interest in soccer because it's just too slow. However, I wish the girls the best of luck, they'll probably get further than the lads can. The bandwagon will come the closer they get/if they get to the "big" games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Bright enough performance against France, after Zambia I had expected the worst.

    The non-selection of Leanne Kiernan still seems crazy to me. I'd have chosen her over a lot of members of the current squad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    I'll be watching, though I'm absolutely a bandwagon hopper. I don't watch women's football normally

    Would be great if they can do well enough to raise their profile. Hopefully it'll get people on board to go to the NI match in Lansdowne Road in September. That's €30 for a family of four, absolute bargain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    This thread in AH will descend into the usual cesspit of begrudgery, innuendo and rumours... 🙄

    Im off to the soccer forum ........................

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,766 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    This thread in AH will descend into the usual cesspit of begrudgery, innuendo and rumours... 🙄

    And that's only when it will be about the Irish team.

    Wait till England start progressing in the tournament, then it's going to be begrudgery, innuendo and rumours on speed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,766 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Is Leanne Kiernan the Andy Reid or Wes Houlihan of ladies soccer ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    I’ll run a sweepstake for the comp if theres any interest? There’s 32 teams so I’ll leave it open till just before the first kick off. If interested, just say so in a post.

    Don’t know if I should randomly generate the list of teams and allocate the team to the order of who posted they want in. Or, randomly generate those who want in and then against the alphabetical teams list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    If you're doing a sweepstake, put me in. I'll probably get Haiti or The Philippines anyway...😄

    I'm sure the method of allocation wouldn't really matter, but I'd probably go with the first way you mentioned.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    FFS will you start a new thread about her? This is my second attempt at a thread for the Women’s World Cup. Not a hope am I letting it get closed or moved again.

    Ireland could get knocked out in the group stages but I hope this thread will still be posted in highlighting great players, amazing goals, bad ref decisions, you know all that usual stuff that has been posted in previous Men’s World Cup threads.

    Now, do you wanna join my sweepstake or not? 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,463 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Best of luck to our ladies in Australia. It is a great showcase for women's sport. I am looking forward to the games.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,373 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Won't be watching as I've no interest in the sport but hope they do well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,742 ✭✭✭pgj2015




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    We will be watching. My girls (12 and 6) are big into sport and doing martial arts and the viking challange for kids and pull ups and weights and all sorts. They love seeing Irish women represented in sport at the highest levels (especially the rugby and the boxing and the MMA). It means a lot to them.

    The match times are awkward as hell but I have set it up with projector screens and they won't hear the results so even if they can't watch the match live they will watch it as near as - as soon as they get home - with all the popcorn and munchies money can buy :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord


    The actual result doesn't seem to matter in women's sport, the bar seems to be set pretty low regarding expectations.

    Look at the recent women's six nations rugby, they finished bottom of the table, zero points, massive negative points difference. But weren't beaten as badly as expected by England, and the comments on here included:

    "Credit to the Irish girls for making a contest of it."

    "Remember we were mooted to lose this game by over 100 points but we kept England to half that. That in itself is an incredible achievement and a marked improvement."

    Note: Plenty of men's teams also get poor results but you don't see ridiculous comments like the ones above defending them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    I'd suggest you read back comments on the men's team performance against France



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,742 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    The men's team only lost 1-0 to France and were very unlucky not to have got a draw, and that's against the best team in the world in a competitive match.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm a season ticket holder, I was there, it was a great performance

    But I was replying to the comment that the results don't matter in the women's game and that no one would defend a poor result in the men's game, which is just bull



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,540 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    So its on the TV then? Last I heard about it, all the european broadcasters refused to pay the ridiculous amounts FIFA were trying to sell the rights for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord


    "RTÉ has exclusive rights in Ireland to broadcast the FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023. The women’s team will travel to Australia and New Zealand who host the competition this summer from July 20th until the final on August 20th."

    RTE expecting to make hay while the sun shines:


    TOTAL SPOT PACKAGE based on 1 30” spot in each of the 42 games:

    half-time breaks €35,000

    in/out match breaks €21,500

    in/out programme €10,500

    Maybe Ryan Tubridy could purchase some spots to make an apology to the watching public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,303 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I'll probably watch some of the games but I find it so hard to watch women's football be it international or club football, the quality just isn't good enough to interest me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord


    Do they play with the same goal post size as the men's game?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Thank Christ these games are on in the early AM so we don't have to tolerate the coverage the rest of the day ....womens football bores me into a stupor it's atrocious, like watching someone you don't know playing a computer game simulation....badly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,890 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I'd be up for joining a sweepstakes. Whatever way you want to allocate the teams is all good for me.

    Can't say I'm an expert in any way about women's football. I've watched bits and pieces of games over the last campaign and I know the gist of the challenge that awaits Ireland: done very well to get there but up against it in a hard group.

    As for women's football generally. I have watched bits and pieces of the last Euro's and WC. Tbh I've struggled to watch entire games because the quality is quite low, but I'm trying to make an effort to appreciate it for what it is, rather than comparing it to the standard of PL or Champions League football. Watching something like that twitter video from above would do more to encourage me to take an interest because I'd rather try to find the good in something, than to find myself in agreement with the haters.

    I do watch the men's national team and it sure isn't for the quality - it's more about the emotional investment over years and years, so I will be wishing the women well and hoping they have a good tournament.

    I think if they manage to compete in the group or even get out of it, the level of general interest will be quite high.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    This seems to be a rather common opinion. And while it’s not helpful to women’s sport in general, it is a somewhat valid one from an entertainment perspective. But maybe you have to take into account the fact that the current (mens) game has developed over at least the last 100 years or so on a professional level. It’s had almost limitless cash, time and coverage poured into it. It’s just a bigger animal all round.

    The women’s game just needs to develop. I imagine 50 Years from now (assuming it continues to grow) it will be a different game.

    Young girls need to see results and feel represented to generate the next generation of female footballers and for it to grow.

    It will probably never be the same as the men’s game. But just dismissing it as low quality and boring comes across as quite unsports’man’like.

    It’s gaining in popularity - trouble is whilst the girls are doing well now, if Irish investment in the game doesn’t keep up with the popularity of it, they’ll be sitting home watching it on TV instead of competing…Like the men’s team 😜



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Shank Williams


    I’m ready to hop on the bandwagon- women’s World Cup is a far bigger and more meaningful sporting contest than the men’s Rugby “World Cup” , if you want to talk about hype and getting something rammed down your throat save it for that comp.

    having said that match times and days of the week they are on are a shite buzz- only hope of a weekend game for Ireland is if they make second round



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch



    Can't you dismiss something like cricket as boring without sounding 'unsportsmanlike' .......what's the difference in having that view on womens football? it's clearly the times we live in and the whole left field movement



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    You can say whatever you like. And, likewise, I can have an opinion on what you say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,280 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    I have no interest in the Women's game and will not be watching any of the games. Also hate all the banwagon jumping that happens on occassions like this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Fair enough, any explanation as to the reason you said someone saying womens football is low quality and boring is unsportsmanlike ? is that all across the board for any sport people don't like or just this one.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord


    Is the SheBelieves Cup the same as the Womens World Cup?


    mod- threadbanned

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    Okay I’m basing this on the assumption that you do enjoy the men’s game. But the women’s game is atrocious due to the low quality in your opinion.

    There seems to be a “it’s shitt and I want nothing to do with it” attitude from quite a few in this thread. So it’s not solely directed at you, I just don’t see how that helps the women’s game improve, or add anything to a thread supporting women at the peak of their game.

    Having competed in a few sports at a beginner (atrocious) level I’ve always been encouraged by far superior athletes than me. That’s good sportsmanship.





  • I feel like it’s just some weird type of jealousy tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,742 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    If we just train a goalkeeper to save average harmless shots we will win the world cup easily. 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch



    On that assumption I would assume you bracket the womens game alongside the mens game something it's been sold as by media ....I'm not buying it whether that's offensive to whoever or not I don't care........would it be unsports’man’like for me to say I don't watch LoI either, I find that low quality too ...non league English football is something I also don't bother with is that unsportsmanlike



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    Look I’m not gonna go on about this and derail the thread, so this is my last post on this topic.

    Go back, read your own post and tell me how you think you come across as a good sport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Who says I think I come across as a good sport 😄......I don't care tbh it was my opinion it wasn't offensive it was my truth


    Pfft whiteknights fighting the good fight everywhere ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭TheProudHighway


    I’ll be watching. My ten year old daughter is absolutely football mad and is really excited about it. Some incredibly and predictably stupid comments on here of course. Fair play to the women’s team I say especially as the so called men’s team couldn’t kick snow off a rope. Whiteknights!! Jesus Christ!



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