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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,576 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Jaysus that was so hard to watch. He seems to be trying to be conor, andrew tate and jake paul all rolled into one. imagine sitting in a pub chatting friends and one of them acting like him, he wouldnt get away with it thats for sure, you are Irish mate, we dont act like that so cop on ya ejit.

    3 piece suit on, whens the wedding?

    talking about never leaving the octagon with a mark, mcgregor was at that as well before and eventually he left it with marks and a broken leg.

    I never liked conor but if he ever fought against this guy, id be cheering conor on.


    This Gary guy thinks he is the greatest man that ever lived lol

    you would think he was after talking on 10 mma champs at once or something.


    imagine what his wife has to listen too 😥

    youtube comment, just what I was thinking, she must be deaf.


    Iv noticed a lot of young lads acting similar the last few years, one guy told me id be better off making money from youtube than running my own business, next time I saw him he had a job in the worst place to work in my local town lol These lads would want to cop on to themselves, they are deluded and not half as talented and smart as they think they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    He seems to have forgot Song Kenam nearly put him out with a left hook, the same shot he got caught with twice on his UFC debut against Williams,

    He doesn't have a great defence when he fight half decent strikers

    The ex husband stuff is bizarre, why is he in the camp , its all a bit odd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I get it, he's Irish so we have to be against him just like with McGregor.

    McGregor was smart, he knew how to attract people who never bought a ppv in their lives. He turned very nasty then and there was the bus thing. That appealed to all the gangsta loving types.

    It's okay to shout for Adensanya, we won't worry about him using the n word or talking crap and being generally nasty all the time.

    Garry seems to be a bit off but he's Irish and I want him to win. There was nothing wrong with what he said after the fight last night. I've heard hundreds of fighters saying similar. I didn't see the post fight presser. No idea what he said there. And yes some of the stuff he says is cringy but that's not a reason to decide not to support an Irishman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,576 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Him talking about his family is cringe, no one cares about that, you are a fighter, thats all people care about, if I want parenting advice, I will watch Dr Phil, not an mma fighter with a $hit love heart tattoo on his hand that looks like it was done in prison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,576 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Just watch the press conference and come back to us then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I wasn't specifically keeping a running total of the number of times he was taken down over his UFC career. But if I was guess, I'd probably say around once per fight. Obviously he wasn't taken down here, nor when he KO'd a guy quickly. But not been taken down isn't the same as having exceptional takedown defense.

    I would only say somebody had exceptional takedown defense if they repeatedly fought guys with solid takedowns and defended them repeatedly. Getting taken down once, and defending once against a rando with weak takedowns is not exceptional imo. I'd really like to see him on the ground before a run at the best 7 or so guys



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I agreed about the way he goes on. I've said for ages I fee he tries too hard, and lacks the charisma that McGregor had. He seems to be trying to create photo ops, or iconic comebacks.

    But in the interest of being fair. Calling out the the he is wearing a 3 piece suit is scraping the barrel stuff lad. I know there's Irish auld fella mentality is that suits are for weddings (drink driving court appearances). But I don't think Jim down the pub should still be setting the fashion trend anyore. If anything I'd have said that's was another Conor inspired move. Dressing like a professional was as aspect of the game Conor elevated imo.

    Local fella talking about youtube, weird if it actually happened. But how's a guy working in a crap job relevant to pro fighter who just cashed a 6 figure purse. Seems overly bitter to bring it up tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,576 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    No need for a 3 piece suit at a UFC press conference in fairness, its just trying to be Conor.

    What I was saying is guys like Gary, Andrew Tate are having this effect on young impressionable people, just an observation, its producing people like that guy in my story.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Not much was made of it but Gary threw his arm over the top of the cage a few time on Saturday night when Magny had him in the clinch, & the leverage of his arm over the top of the cage made it impossible for Magny to drag him down, The Ref was very soft & let him away with it ,

    Magny usually drags you down as opposed to your normal take down, to me that showed a bit of panic in Gary , His first instinct was to grab the cage & the ref warned him then he hung his arm over the top , That is panic & looking for something to hold yourself up ,

    Also at that stage Magny leg was gone so he had no chance o getting a strong base to pull him down,

    It was a very good performance from Garry , i just wish he was likeable,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,260 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    What a performance! I know Magny was coming in on short notice but Garry absolutely dominated. Imagine we had a fighter who performed like Garry did on Saturday night but who was also likable and was someone you wanted to get behind!

    That would be great, Shame Garry's about as likable as staph!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    I think most were behind McGregor early on he himself alienated people with his antics and behaviour!

    Gary has great potential just needs to find the right flavour for people to get behind him!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Ian Garry is becoming more incredibly unlikable by the day but to be fair that was an absolute domination, he made Magny look like some random lad pulled in from the crowd.

    Some people are really letting their dislike of him get out of hand, someone on Reddit was like "He couldn't even finish Magny, his stock will plummet after that poor showing".

    Super embarrassing for Magny....30-26, 30-26, 30-24. It was every bit as bad as Lemos v Weili but at least Lemos actually landed a few good punches and a decent submission attempt.

    Wonderboy makes a lot of sense for Garry next, on the tail-end of his career and a striker. I understand exactly why he called him out but I'd love to see him fight someone like Belal or Burns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    If you look back at Conor & press conference's & interviews ,There is a really clear point where he lost his wit , his smart one lines & charisma , it was the end of his movement training & his growth as a real martial artist ,

    The point was right after he fought Floyd , Its when he went incompletely off the rails & all his out of cage issues started , He became angry & bitter Sounds childish but its when he became for the want of a better term " evil Conor "

    In his private life this matched up with all his other issues, Basically we all know what he started doing hard & often & it was his down fall with the public,

    Ad people say "don't do drugs kids"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,149 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Yeah Wonderboy is a great match up but I think currently Garry would be mauled by some of the top 5 or 6 guys in BJJ and wrestling. Chimaev, Belal, Colby, Usman would all be able to take him down wouldnt they?

    Maybe Burns is too small to get near him?

    Delighted for him anyway. Yeah a bit cringe but we should just accept that with lads who were teenagers when McGregor was on top. And he had the good sense to get out of Ireland and is training in a great team.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Zverklez


    Burns cornered him on Saturday night, they are friends and teammates, no chance they are fighting. Wonderboy was offered a fight with Garry on Saturday but turned it down, Dana mentioned it in the press conference



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    What's wrong with dressing well for a press conference? I mean, you'll be on TV, lots of cameras. Makes perfect sense to look professional and ditch the Affliction gear that made them look amateur. You don't have to wait for a wedding to dress well.

    I understood you were claiming that guys like Garry are producing the guy in your story. I'm question how would you know who influenced him to say that? I mean, isn't is more likely that is was influenced by actual Youtubers make making millions. Rather than a pro athletes earning a giving through sport. Just seemed like a stretch to attach some local weirdo to Garry. More of an assumption than observation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I did notice that. That ref is terrible tbf. I l also noticed similar panic when Magny grabbed his leg after a from kick to the face. Garry even jumped at one point. If Magny was on the ball, he'd have just slammed him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭fitzparker


    I agree, id rather get dressed up after a big win to be interviewed and head to the after party than be a scruff like Kavanagh who goes to the club in his trainer gear.

    The comment is reaching.

    Garry is in a tough predicament, Conor was the first and only of his kind. so whoever comes after will be compared with everything.

    you come in with style = you are Mcgregor

    Want a boxing match = you are mcgregor

    Wit/Charisma/Sound bites = you are Mcgregor

    You are irish = Mcgregor


    What is the opposite of not Mcgregor? = Boring, it will get you no fights, no money

    Social media is a huge platform to earn money/deals/sponsorships outside of the octagon especially when the money is dirt compared to boxing etc... So every video that might garnish a soundbite to rake up views is made,,, and who better to base this off? Conor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Your right but also literally quotes McGregor every chance he gets, Says the exact same things Conor says,

    On his vlog pre press conference , he was sitting in the hotel & says he was chatting to his mates & they where saying how press conferences give you the chance to say things that become iconic like "who the **** is that guy" , Then at the press conference he launches into the Conor " You;ll do what your told" ,

    The guy had it pre planned & still had to be a pound land Conor ,

    Trying to make a big issues out of what Magny said & white Knight it when nobody gave a toss, Everyone realised what Magny meant ,

    The whole nutritionist thing is just odd



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Completely agree that he is trying to recreate the McGregor formula. A lot of it is forced on his behalf.

    But I also think that people are going out of their way to complain about everything he does. Wearing a suit for interviews is entirely normal. Dozens of fighters now do it. If he wore a t-shirt and a cap, he's be slated too.

    The ex-husband is involved in some of Garrys business. Future Coffee. Future Group MMA. He is also listed as a director of Layla Ltd. 😕. Strikes me as weird too, but not everyone has a messy resentful breakup.

    I don't think I can agree re:white knighting though. Magny said he whoops his 3 year old. That's what he said, during a press conference to hype the fight. It was absolutely the right move to respond to it, that's the game. I would have went with a more "Hold on, did you just say that you beat your kid..." and force the back pedal rather that shout over him.

    Whether Magny actually whoops his kid or not is irrelevant (to the callout/backpedal move) but it didn't sound like he was joking. Nor does this clown




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Agree , i think suits make them look more professional ,

    Still even if the break up is on great terms still odd to have your wife's ex husband constantly around you , especially is she has a son with him ,The nutritionist got the goods before they where pre used if you get me,

    It was obvious Magny meant discipline his son ,there was no need to go completely over the top like Garry did it was cringe ,

    So example Garry said Neal pulled out because he hurt his vagina, that not PC either ,



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Malcolm Tight Dean


    The most sensible post in this whole thread.

    When McGregor started wearing suits to the press conferences other fighters started dressing up and got the piss taken out of them for copying McGregor.

    Garry is in an impossible position. The best Irish fighter since McGregor. No matter what he does he'll always be compared to McGregor, at least until he wins the belt.

    He's a bit goofy on the mic but not everyone is a natural.

    Not everyone is McGregor or Sonnen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I've no other details, other than they are all in business together. I don't know if he was the ex first and nutritionist later, or the reverse. Maybe they're a truple? Maybe they are scamming Garry. Who knows.

    It was obvious Magny meant discipline his son...

    By hitting/smacking/whooping etc. That's the issue.

    Garry didn't have the charisma to pull it off. But calling it out is the right move.

    If somebody at a press conference says "I eat pieces of shiit like you for breakfast". The obvious move is to flip it and say, "You eat shiit for breakfast?"

    So example Garry said Neal pulled out because he hurt his vagina, that not PC either ,

    Huh? I fail to see the relevance. That's in insult. Is vagina really un-PC? Why?

    Regardless, the issue is not that Magny said something un-PC. It's that he hits his kids. It's fundamentally wrong. I'm surprised this is a discussion tbh.

    Obviousy it was acceptable for a long time. So was giving the wife a smack every know now and again. Times have moved on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    He was ex husband & then became nutritionist , the wife got him on board,

    Ye correct he couldn't make it work & sounded like a toll ,

    The point is everyone & there neighbour knew what Magny meant , there was no need to go all "Karen" on it & try make a feud form it, it was odd by everyone ,

    The point of the Vagina comment is Mr PC & the White Knight the UFC didn't know it needed is basically calling Neal a women & using that he is a woman as an insult ,Your either MR PC or your not ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well the one great thing is seeing this thread so busy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I know what Magny meant. And I think he's was wrong. Really seems like you are missing the issue.

    Do you think it's ok for somebody to hit their kids?

    is basically calling Neal a women & using that he is a woman as an insult ,Your either MR PC or your not ,

    Women are in generally weaker than men. That is a biologically fact. I don't think it is non-PC to be aware of that.

    We all know he is not an actual women. I don't have an issue with fighters calling each other names. I don't think fighters calling each others names is remotely comparable to hitting your kids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Magny wasn't saying he beats his child,, he meant he'd discipline Garry , Magny has never talked trash so when he tried it sounded bad thats all,

    |I agree but Magny didn't hit his kid did he, he tried to sound smart & made a meal of it that is all,

    It was much to do about nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Except he did indicate he hits his child...

    If he just said, "Garry needs discipline and I'm gonna whoop him like I'm his daddy" - I'd agree you you. There is nothing wrong with that. It trash talk (albeit lolbad trash talk). But Magny added words to the effect of "...as I'm a father myself, I'm accustomed to whooping kids".

    I don't know if he actually does obviously, likewise you don't know that he actually doesn't hit his kids. Both are possible, but seems assuming he doesn't in order to have a go at Garry. I bet is Garry said it, he wouldnt get the same benefit.

    And like I said, it was a press conference. Garry is supposed to make him eat his words. Regardless of whether he believes him. Garry says enough dumb things to not have to pick on this one imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Nobody else cared or batted & eye lid because they understood what Magny meant,

    Garry was recording himself on his VLog when he heard it & put on a littler billy barry white knight show for the camera in his face, Much to do about nothing ,



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  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Malcolm Tight Dean


    I think it's great to see that Garry has a healthy relationship with his wife's ex. That's a great environment for a kid to grow up in with everyone getting along. The child's father must be fond of Garry to have a business and personal relationship (watch now, Garry will test positive for horse meat haha)

    Garry has a good head on his shoulders. Got the **** out of Ireland to train with elites and has a healthy homelife - plenty of fellas his age wouldn't fancy being around the ex-hubby at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Look whatever works for your works for you,All very close in time line for me but each to there own ,

    Lets not forget he got kicked off his MMA team in Dublin , they left him a week ,if not days before his cage Warrior championship fight because of interference from the now Wife who had just become his manger

    In the long run it has certainly worked out better fro him no question , There been plenty of rumour's & hear say about her since but they look like they make it work , Every family dynamic is different & its nobody business either way,

    I really hope the lad find himself in interviews & go on to gain huge support here at the moment people seem very split on him ,he certainly has the talent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Others fighters didn't bat an eye because they weren't fighting Magny. I wouldn't have batted an eye either if sitting there either. But I'm just saying that I can get why his opponent would give him shiiit over it. That's the purpose of the presser.

    I thought Garry was a plonker at the start. I'm starting to com around and feel bad for the guy now, every is giving him no leniency at all. If he can keep winning and shut the gob, he might recover.



  • Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭rondog


    the problem is Ian is a tw@t.Hes an immature bell end.He was raising his hands trying to get the crowd cheer for him when he won and i didnt hear any cheering which is not really heard of for an irish man in boston.

    All his giving the finger BS, he just looks like a clown who is trying to hard.

    Id love to get behind him as an irishman but he makes me cringe with everything he does.

    Also, the fact he couldnt finish a man that only had one leg makes me think he will struggle with real tough Mudders in his net few bouts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Most of the Irish mma lads come across as idiots, cant think of any that are likeable. They all seem to think they are better then what they are. Gallagher in particular is an awful clown. At least garry is backing his talk up though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Anytime I've seen Magny get stopped it's been by sub. I don't remember him ever getting stopped by knockout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,529 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Going by the last few pages in here, I’m sure this won’t be a popular opinion but I don’t mind seeing Garry carrying on as he is in the least bit. I think there’s a touch of the old belief here that the Irish as a nation typically look down on confidence with begrudgery.

    Can he be a little annoying? Absolutely, but there’s no malice in it and outside of the cage he comes across as a resoundingly grounded and harmless fella. He can keep talking all the sh*te he wants, but as long he’s not beating up old men in pubs, being in and out of court as much as a judge and involving himself with career criminals, he’s doing alright IMO.

    A good Irish role model in MMA is refreshing, honestly. I’ll be supporting him any time he steps in the cage for as long as he keeps his name out of the tabloids.

    Either way, I see him championship potential in him so it’ll be exciting to follow him over the next couple of years.



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    I think his antics are far less annoying than McGregor tbh. And Gallagher though he's barely worth mentioning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Was KO'd twice. Including this one by Ponzinibbio that bears quite the resemblance the Garry fight.

    Leg kick, hopping on the cage. Garry lacked the KO power, but he did his homework


    https://www.facebook.com/viaplayfighting.no/videos/2630886657031684/



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  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭paulieeye


    Not so sure its just an Irish thing, the level of hate he's getting on reddit is unprecedented. Everyone just thinks he's a diickhead megregor wannabe. Calls to feed him to Shavkat.

    Flip side is it'll result in views, intentional or not!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Surely it’s a knock in effect from everybody being sick of McGregor? Garry following the same big mouth model and people are just fed up of it so turning on him straight away

    Personally I don’t mind him yet. He’s backing up everything he’s saying. Let’s see how far he can climb up that ladder



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'm sure the target at this stage is publicity. If you get compared to McGregor, in a good or bad way, there's going be a lot of people checking you out.

    If that's what the plan is it's brilliant and it's working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Its not in the same stratosphere as McGregor in interest or hype,I started this thread in nearly 2 year ago & we are only page 9,

    Hes had 6 UFC fights & only on page 9 & about 3 pages are due to the one sided war of words with Magny,

    He still need the one masive win , that one really big moment,

    Conor came in & called out the very very best form day one , Garry been a bit more respectful but somehow still managing to be less liked ,

    Conor was special , his persona just took over everything UFC in his early years ,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I didn't say he was anything like McGregor, I'm just saying that any comparison to Conor whether it be good or bad is a lot of publicity.

    You can see how busy this thread has gotten since the Magny fight with lots of it about what he said and the cringiness etc. And then some complimentary and not so complimentary about his fighting.

    I remember when you started the thread and how weeks went by without any posts.

    I don't know if he is doing this stuff on purpose or not. I just said that if it's part of a publicity plan then it's working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    I just hope Dana was right about a fight night back to Dublin next year if he wins again.

    I like listening to Garry until he has a fight when he starts being cringeworthy as he seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Even saying doesn't want to be rushed to title fight like a Till



  • Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭US3


    I know wonderboy is pushing on now but I can't see how Garry would beat him. He's not in the same league striking wise. I think it could be a boring dance off if anything. It's a pity he won't fight Gilbert or Shavcat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Just to remind people, before he started this latest stuff he was talking about his wife and child and how much they mean to him and how he wants to make sure they are financially set for life. He was saying some stupid stuff as well but he showed a very human side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    He's very like Wonderboy in that you don't know where his attacks are coming from as they are incredibly well disguised.

    I'd agree with you that it would be a boring fight as neither wants to make the mistake of going in and getting caught.

    Wonderboy said he wouldn't fight him. Why would he not want to fight him if, like you, he thinks he'd beat him?



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