Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

This is it for me, we have been slowly rebuilding a nice team over the past few windows even with the mistakes made. If we got in a ready to go starting CDM before this window closes it would be great, then the focus on getting VVD’s replacement in within the next 12 months. However, we will always have to rely on youth/lesser talented players to fill in the final gaps on the bench, yes, we will have some top talent in reserve, but I think some people are being unrealistic with the constant comparison to City, who will have a 400m pound + bench at their disposal is getting nauseating! 

Macallisters red card has been overturned

A rare display of common sense.

But we didn't pull the Lavia deal because the club felt he was worth what they were asking. Southampton wanted £50m and our final bid for hi was £60m, as I said before, the whole episode was embarrassing and every club will looking laughing at then and lippong their chose when they come knocking for a player.

Again, it very much seems we did not bid 60m. The one singular report of that has been roundly contradicted, including by the later comment by Southampton themselves, all saying Liverpool did not come back in with a higher bid after Chelsea's - the consensus is that Liverpool had a bid accepted BEFORE Chelsea's. It would seem our accepted bid was around 48 - 50m, with Chelsea then having a slightly higher bid accepted but with less money up front.

Fairly certain that post was in reply to the person who suggested getting rid of VVD and Salah along with Hendo and Fab within this window. So yes there's some people who expect complete squad overhauls within 1 window...

If you didn't know the figure why did you say Liverpool bid 60m?

Link please to where Southampton accepted a bid of £60m from Chelsea? And then decided to take an offer of £53m +5m in add ons!

So you're saying that Southampton accepted Liverpool's £60m bid and then felt charitable and also accepted Chelsea's bid of worse terms of £53m + £5m after that?

That doesn't make sense. Why accept a lower bid after the (supposed) fact?

That's the article that has been roundly disproven and contradicted by absolutely everyone, including Southampton (and you seem to have the timeline confused there). Been confirmed Liverpool did not come back in after Chelsea, and no bid was made on that Monday - which is what that single unsubstantiated article claims. It's been confirmed Liverpool did have a bid accepted, but that was BEFORE Chelsea came in. Speaking of the process leading up to that weekend, Southampton's director Jason Wilcox stated: “We had an offer which we accepted from Liverpool but then Chelsea came to the table”

Which all amounts to the same thing in the grand scheme of things, that the player chose another club - but it's very relevant to the claim that we came back in with this massive crazy desperate offer after Chelsea's bid, which will have future clubs "lippong their chose" (I'm guessing you meant 'licking their chops'?).

Well it matters to the point you were trying to make... why would other clubs be licking their chops if Liverpool never in fact actually came in with this crazy desperate over the top bid? Obviously that would only really be the case if they came in and bid so much higher than was even asked for initially - which again, is not the case. They by all accounts - most importantly Southamptons - offered what was asked, had a bid accepted, and were beaten on personal terms by Chelsea.

Like, the whole debacle was a failure in that the same successful bid made a week earlier would've secured the player, but it feels like you're really over-egging it here...

We can only be embarrassed if we want to be embarrassed. We were led to believe Caicedo would be interested. He wasn't. Lavia was interested until he seen the big bucks Chelsea were offering. Liverpool have walked away on plenty of occasions and will continue to do so if a valuation doesn't suit.

I'd be a hell of a lot more embarrassed being a Chelsea fan tbh.

If we're setting the bar at Chelsea were in big trouble.

Well they haven't actually. The person in charge of transfer negotiations has only been here since this summer. What a start he's had. 😂 you'd hope from here the only way is up but let's not hold our breath on that one either.

Dunno why you are so surprised, it was always gonna happen. We all know it shouldn't have been a red and we are being proven right time and time again. It's actually just pathetic how get reffed so differently to every other team. Jota got a a yellow card for being headbutted by Enzo Fernandez ffs!! Salah gets MMA tackled every week and gets nothing time and time again. I for one am tired of it.

Would love to see a midfield of Endo, Dom and MacAllister this weekend along with a front line of Diaz, Gakpo and Salah.

It's would be a great test for the new team. We also should have a bench that can change a game. I'm excited for this one.

While I agree that’s our best team on paper as things stand currently, I think its still far too early get excited about taking points away at Newcastle.

MaCallister and Szobo have started well, especially the later, but they’re still a long way away from the knowing the in’s, out’s and demands of a Klopp midfield. If Endo starts, he will be the lynch pin of that trio with max total of 5/6 days training behind him.

On the other hand, Newcastle at this stage are finally tuned going into their 3rd season of this team build under Howe, they absolutely demolished Villa and to be honest they could have scored 10. They were also very impressive in that loss to City and with a bit of guile up front, could have come away with at least a point, they look very solid in defence and midfield, which is one that that definitely cannot be said for us! I can see Isak causing us all sorts of problems up front and will get a least 1. If you offered me a dour 1-1 draw now, I’d bite your hand off…

Salah's form is the least of our problems

Another reason I want Trent more RB-ish is because it pushes Salah a little bit further forward and stops him coming as deep/wide.

I think anyway.

I wanna say we've a tough start but tbh I look at the EPL fixture list these days and find it hard to see any "easy" games bar maybe Luton.

Otherwise you'd have said 5 points from our opening three games wasn't too bad considering two were at Stamford Bridge and St James.

Yeah I agree, I prefer him in that sort of 'cheating' position that is very high and somewhat wide. In between those RW & CF positions.

Just to play devil's advocate here, are the coaches using Salah wider and deeper to utilize his playmaking abilities more? To pre-empt age catching up with him when his rapid pace starts to wane. Become a different player, rather than the edge of the shoulder one.

Houllier said that 4 first choice players is the maximum that can be introduced into a team at once without causing a massive disruption. Beyond that the existing cohesion is gone and the manager is building a new team. Benitez had the same belief and Klopp made mention of the same issue when Chelsea began their spending spree last year.

Chelsea have a panel of players but Newcastle have developed a team, Klopp chose not to add to the squad in the summer of 2019 and last summer was an attempt to replicate the same trick. In the past 8 transfer windows, the club has signed 11 players for the first team that are still at the club.

• 2019 : Adrian
• 2020 : Thiago, Jota, Tsimikas
• 2021 : Konate, Diaz
• 2022 : Nunez, Gakpo
• 2023 : Mac Allister, Szoboszlai, Endo

There has been a serious amount of neglect in the up keep of the squad to maintain a competitive edge.

Did Fulham not offer 17m last January?

no less than £100 million should be accepted.

No idea how transfermarket work out the 'worth' of players but they have Andre at €15m.

€30m hardly seems like low-balling.