Irish White Privilege......Yeah

Being white is not is not our fault,, we are more or less the same colour as all other Northern Europeans.

And not so long ago, being Irish might have been seen as a negative in the eyes of some of our nearby fellow Europeans.

So why should anyone now think that being Irish and white now comes with Privilege,, it most certainly does not.

But it may be argued that in the eyes of other non White Northern Europeans, that we do indeed have some kind of perceived Privilege. And again, this is not our fault.  

That is complete bullsh*t. There isn't a hierarchy of under-privilege. The circumstances that any individual faced that resulted in disadvantage are real. Someone who grows up in Darndale on Moyross is not to blame for where there grew up, no more that the asylum seeker form Kharkiv or Mogadishu. The disadvantages that someone faces should be acknowledged irrespective of their background.

Take Kieth Earls as an example - he overcame the under-privilege of growing up in Moyross, a very disadvantaged area of Limerick. However, everyone from the same area did not benefit from the same privileges that he did - e.g - being from a rugby family he was exposed to the community around Young Muster rugby club which gave him structure that others did not benefit from. It doesn't negate his achievements in overcoming his challenges. But everyone who grew up in the same area did not have the same chances he had.

"....White privilege certainly exists. And it’s dripping off this thread. "

thats one of the reasons it shouldnt be promoted, it gets weaponised like above to Other people in a discussion, and its a good idea to teach white privilege to kids of all backgrounds?

Meh, just replacing the Irish Catholic guilt complex with Irish white guilt complex.

Some people just love beating themselves up, let them at it, not my bag.

I'm beginning to think simply existing is a privilege. Being normal is a privilege. In many situations these days being Irish and white is a disadvantage. Male especially so.

That's not to diminish people with more urgent needs and disadvantages.

That's the thread title.

The first post however is about the NCCA draft for the secondary SPHE curriculum. It's hard to evaluate that because it's written in SPHE language that is open to interpretation and is difficult to understand. It's hard to accept it at face value considering they can't teach things like Irish or maths consistently.

You are seeking to undermine an individuals experience due to systemic issues that they have no control over while simultaneously enhancing other individuals experience due to systemic issues they have no control over. That is rank hypocrisy that goes some way to explain some of the misdirected anger in evidence here.

The modern Left aren't too worried about privilege, it's just a vehicle for them to point out the inherent badness in others. They naturally being the virtuous ones.

The modern Left have never forgiven the working class for not falling in behind the revolution and dropping "wrong think".

Remember seeing a YouTube clip about 15 ago, Harvard students screaming at unemployed construction labourers about privilege . It just summed up what I was increasingly seeing at the time in SF, a movement that was becoming dominated by arrogant middle class ideologues, who were always talking about the working class but were aloof snobs.

The left today are like the priests of old, screaming from the pulpit about sin, all are sinners, anyone who doesn't go along with their heavenly vision is evil and they are nearly always now from the top third of society.

The modern Left have moved on from class.

It's an uncomfortable topic for them and one that will lead to a dead end of people pointing out that the left across the world today are dominated by the very well to do.

What's the point of narcissists adopting a position where they cannot condemn others?

This is not the 80s or 90s

To the privileged, equality is a massive loss in status.

People are terrified of immigration because it's extra competition for resources, meanwhile we set up the global economy to funnel resources away from the 'developing countries'

Recognising privilege is not about blame or guilt. It's about not being an arrogant prick who thinks they deserve all of their wealth and success by being a fundamentally better person, while simultaneously thinking of less successful people as 'scrotes' or 'scumbags'

There is offensive wealth out there in the upper middle classes that needs to be called out. Bringing race into it muddies the waters. It's about money and wealth

I want privilege though, why are we all of sudden expected to tacitly buy into this masochistic notion that we shouldn't have one up over other people. Is life not long series of attempts at accruing various forms of privilege through our deeds? Give me all the privilege I can get please.

Do you know what religion even is?

All I'm saying is 'Try not to be a massive dick'

Is that too much for you?

What I think is actually hilarious are all the virtuous people profiling other people by race, age and sex all the time (white, middle aged, males in the case of this thread).

You did a great job in Florida, Gov De Santis.

Not being a dick is woke now? Well I never….