Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Is there a chance perhaps that the needle has shifted a bit?

Maybe due to the Dan Wooton revelations.

It seems that oul William had a hard time of it recently, with his no-show at the Womens World Cup final.

Even some rather staunch anti Harry/Megan characters were raking William over the coals for it and the story did seem to have a longer shelf life than usual when it comes to William/Kate news.

There was some protocol involved with William not attending, needs permission from parliament or some such and at short notice security would need arranging so likely decided not worth the haul over and back. The longevity perhaps stems from a lack of Harry and Meghan stories which, when something intermittently does happen these day, it has all become predictable and boring. Desperate for some royal scah so putting the boot, pardon the pun, into the President of the FA satiated that need.

That lad does get quite the benefit on here, doesn't he?

Anyway, He was on leave he had no engagements, the reason is he couldn't be arséd.

If it were the mens he would have been there.

It should immediately disqualify him from being President of the FA.

Very poor form.

Yes, it reminds me of how the RF scaped goated Wallis the same way the scapegoated Meghan. The Old Queen blamed Wallis Simpson for Bertie's early death? Yep, nothing at all to do with him being a chain smoker and dying of lung cancer. Added to that, he was always sickly anyway (due probably to a couple of generations of marrying your cousins)! Prince Philip was a chain smoker as well, and because of her father's death, QEII insisted that he give them up (which he did).

The Duke of Windsor never wanted to be King in the first place. If he did, he could have followed on family tradition and married one of his cousins and kept Simpson as his mistress, in the same way as QEII married a (3rd and 2nd cousin) and Philip kept mistresses his whole life. Charles (and now William) seem to be following the same playbook.

Just on the closeness of the Duke of Windsor to the Nazis - he wasn't the only one close to them. There is a photo of QEII doing the Nazi salute. Most of the elite of British society were not adverse to the Nazis. Prince Philip's 3 sisters were married to Nazis.

The Invictus Games are apparently approaching and Netflix posted a video trailer on YouTube about a week ago. I've just had a look and it's had 2.4k likes and 17k dislikes. At a quick glance, the comments (of which there are nearly 5000) pretty well share the same theme, which is that Invictus should distance themselves from H&M and make sure all the proceeds of the games go to veterans. People are entirely sympathetic to and supportive of the vets. Sample of recent comments below

Whether those of us on this thread are supportive of H&M, or suspicious of them, it really is a serious issue that their very involvement and presence create such a negative response. And it could all have been so very different.

I had read something that he couldn't go because Charles hadn't visited there yet as sovereign, so William couldn't go due to protocol. Could be a load of crap or true because some of those protocols are a bit mad.

I think you hit the nail on the head, he should have gone down to the pub and had a drink. Instead he does (another) video for the Lioness featuring his only daughter. A bit sickening using her like this, especially since there's loads of photos of himself and Louis at football matches. It's the cynic in me, I didn't like that he used his kid like that. I hate when influencers do the same. Your suggestion was far better and much more natural. The RF should hire you for PR!

What was the issue with the cost of her wardrobe?

He is only sueing newspapers for illegally obtaining private information.

You have to laugh - seems Thomas Markle Jn is now running Meghan and Harry tours in LA and Montecito at a $1,000 a pop!

And the sad thing is that people will probably go on them. 😂

£38,000 for three days' outfits prompted questions over, "who paid for them?". Who knows for sure??

My point is that their "brand" is now so damaged that the facts of who paid no longer matter. The perception is that the Charity did. It might not be fair, but it's what's happened.

Meg raging she missed that idea while being in invisible car chases.

Nonsense. It was in in Oz not Iraq. His father is King of the place. The Queen of Spain and her daughter were there.

Apparently he was going to the men's final if they had reached it, the decision was only made when they reached the quarters.

Again he is the President of the FA, zero excuses, he just couldn't be arséd.

Re the queen and the Nazi salute. She was a young child and by all accounts it was Edward who had taught the kids to do this. Obviously in hindsight, with full knowledge of what it stood for, it is inexcusable, but I'm not sure a 6 year old in 1933, before the war, would have had any idea what it was. Edward went on to meet with Nazis after it was known what they were doing, and even supposedly collaborated with them during the war, which is obviously very different.

Yes. For a fancy dress.

Video of QEII and her mother giving the nazi salute. This video is interesting - the main concern of the Palace is who leaked the video a few years ago, not that the RF actually supported the nazi in the 1930s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL5sOKP5Aqw

The hypocrisy is astounding! The RF used Wallis Simpson as a scapegoat back then and they didn't want anyone to know that 80 years later.

what it was for doesn’t matter. Wearing a swastika isn’t funny and given the fact that it happened years after WWII harry should have know better and makes it worse given he was a grown adult. The queen was a child and it was in 1933 when it wasn’t fully known how much a shitbag hitler would become.