Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

I mentioned nothing about other people off setting Charles’ carbon foot print but wind up and deliberately ignore my point all you like Boggles. You can ignore the part of the article you posted where it is pointed out by Clarence House that they do off set which I was making reference to.

They don't really though, that's a lie they tell people so they can continue with their gross polluting opulence.

You think I hate Meghan? I don’t 

Will you stop for God sake.

Your staunch defence of everything RF at the expense of these 2 "celebs" is comical and weird in equal measure. Made far funnier because you firmly believe your opinions are reasonable. They aren't.

You have written reams of largely fantasy demonising the pair of them especially Markle.

I have been pretty clear IMO, they are all self entitled díckheads with Markle probably being the only half normal one of them.

But bias something something. 🙄

Does anyone know why Prince William is president of the English FA ? Is it always a memner of the royal family ? Is there a vote on who becomes the president of the FA ? Anyone know the history ?

He has so many titles, between Prince and a list of Duke and Earl titles, plus his job responsibitiy and public service commitments already. Surely president of the FA should go to someone, man or women who is involved in day to day football in England. and who can give their full working time, and attend high profile womens and mens matches, at all levels.

And yet you think I support the British Royal Family which infers that you think I like them. If I don't like them it doesn't automatically mean I dislike them. Indifference would be the word you're looking for. All we see from the British Royal Family is attempts at carefully managing Public Relations which has varying degrees of success. We have no capacity to know what they are actually like in private. They could be all lovely people in private or a bunch of c*nts. The likelihood is probably somehwere in the middle. Same goes for Harry and Meghan who are also a stage managed couple. Just like any other family really which makes it a fascinating on going soap opera.

You don't care what I think I think about any of them but, based purely off what I think, you took the care to honestly call me a hater because I'm being critical of Meghan on the *checks notes* Harry and Meghan thread. 🤔

If the Duke of Windsor was so supportive of the Nazis, why did they leave Paris when Germany invaded it? (They moved to Spain and Portugal for a few months) and then he was appointed Governor of the Bahamas. For someone who was seemingly supportive of Germany against England, its a bit strange that the British Government appointed him Governor of the Bahamas.

As for Wallis Simpson being responsbile for the death of Bertie - I missed in the original article that you didn't support that theory of the Queen Mother that she was responsible. Perhaps I'm also missing that you believe that Meghan isn't to blame for Harry running out on the British people also?

I don't see how this hard understand. What you tell me you think is not what I formed my opinion on.

I formed my opinion on the exclusive negativity reams of largely fantastical prose that you have written about this couple. That is a far more robust gauge of ones opinion I would have thought.

Do you need examples maybe to help you understand?

The expected belittling final comment there. Go ahead and indulge me. Hint: Don't go and mistake my opining, my speculation, my inference, my reasoning, my speaking from experience or my deduction and go confusing it with what you (wrongly) state as fantasty.

It's up to them to prove it. Not me.

They haven't.

Dear me, we're all on a trip down the rabbit hole - again!

I thought that we were discussing Harry and Meghan, with different views from different people on whether (at one extreme) they are wonderful humanitarians, constantly striving to help people experience their fullest possible lives whilst suffering institutional racism etc etc, or (at the other end of the spectrum) whether they are chancers, grifters and perpetual whingers. But somehow, we are instead discussing the FA Presidency, carbon offsets, the Duke and Duchess of Windsor and the who-did-what-to-whom of Nazi salutes

I have said - as have many others who a critical of H&M - that I don't hate them. And I don't. I willingly admit to thinking the way they frequently behave is somewhere between pretty bad and appalling. My latest entry into the lion's den that this thread can be was to offer the comment that H&M might reflect on the comments and downvotes for the Netflix Invictus video trailer, and consider adopting a significantly lower profile at the upcoming event. Meghan seems particularly unwelcome. The comments on YouTube are pretty toxic and, whether they're fair or not, could well adversely affect the charity. That would be a huge shame. So could they think about things from the veterans' point of view, and consider what the best course of action would be for the benefit of the veterans.

It's not getting any better for them out there

Not a footman. It means the whole "using personal experiences, seeing similar patterns of behaviour play out in public and then using that as a basis for making inferences" thing.

Again it's not just my opinion.

It's a lie rich assholés put out there so they can continue their opulent lavish polluting lifestyles guilt free.

No one is falling for it anymore, well maybe some people. 🤷‍♂️

They're some of the worst I’ve seen; they are incessant and very negative. Ignore them if you want. H&M probably will.