**** Starfield ****

Yes.

The worst I've seen, via GamePass, Immortals Fenyx Rising. Brutal at 30 FPS on Series X and OLED but amazing visually at 60 FPS. Also Guardians of the Galaxy, stuttering away at 30 FPS.

AC Origins, Odyssey really look gorgeous in 60 FPS. Really noticeable when you dive from a high point into the blue sea for example.

4K is nice, but 60 FPS hits you in the feels. 😁 Mario Kart on Switch is lovely single player 60 FPS. Feel so right. Also, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Rayman Legends, ... the 60 FPS, top tier Switch games are wonderful, and they are 1080p max.

It's all very confusing though. If you are not careful or aware you can end up playing a game in the wrong mode for your display. Or play an older version, when a newer, better frame rate version exists.

In fairness switching between 30fps and 60fps on a console is still relatively new so some people will not be familiar with the big difference. Its true that in order to see the big difference you have to go from 60 to 30 with the same game but it's also fair to say that until you do this it's hard to see this big difference.

Sorry but it's a fact for me. When I play a game at 60 fps and then 30fps on my console I just don't see any major difference .

You can't just dispute that as nonsense just because you can see it.

People also seem to be making out that games were rubbish/unplayable without 60fps and that for me is total nonsense. What did people think of games 10 years ago?

Is your PS5 set up to output at 60FPS and are you using a 60hz HDMI port on your TV?

You should definitely be able to see the difference.

I never noticed frame rates on consoles until I wondered why Super Mario Galaxy on Wii was so fluid and Twilight Princess was clunky.

And is there a setting in the Xbox to output at 60FPS? Sorry not familiar with it myself but I think there's a test you run and it tells you what will output to the TV?

Yes Xbox settings tell you what your setup can do and I'm all good to go for 60fps.

I'm just saying that I don't notice a huge difference or that it impacts my experience. Spoken to other games too and they agree despite what many say here.

Anyhow time to move on as thead is for Starfield which I'm looking forward too. All the early noises are despite reviewer embargo is that this game is going to be well reviewed and a big hit.

I can completely understand someone saying they are perfectly fine with 30fps. I wouldn't at all argue it's unplayable, and I have played many a game at 30fps on the 360/Xbox One without any issue.

But I can't quite understand people saying they can't detect any difference, unless their monitor/TV can only do 30hz at 4K or something. I guess it's possible, in the same way that some people genuinely say Tesco value cola tastes just like Coca Cola to them. 😅

The big thing for 30FPS is that it stays locked at 30fps. There's nothing worse than a game falling below that regularly, it's an awful experience. Fallout 4 on Xbox One and PS4 was a joke, in some parts it would drop to single digit FPS regularly. Cyber Punk was another one that turned into a slide show regularly.

With the PS5 and Xbox Series S/X I don't see why any reason why a solid 30fps wouldn't be easily achievable. All have a basically identical decent CPU and 30fps @ 1080 should be no issue for even the Series S with its reduced GPU power.

I have an Xbox Series S but will probably play on PC to be able to run at 60fps, but haven't decided yet. A lot to be said for being able to just chill out on the couch with a single player game, don't do it often enough.

Have you gotten a steam code yet? I activated my code (7600x) with amd but haven't got it yet

Just bought the deluxe upgrade so I'm ready to go on Friday, 1am release time is a balls though what's wrong with midnight? Haven't been this hyped for a game since GTA V back in 2013 🤣

NZ trick won't work for this, it's releasing at the same time everywhere on UTC