"Nobody cares about Covid anymore"

We were guided by the science for some decisions but other decisions purposely went against the science and then there were decisions that accelerated spread of covid. It would be useful if the whole lot was reviewed and we distilled down what actually worked and what did not work. The worry I would have was our actions during the second year of covid, although we had a lot more facts, there were crazy things going on and straight out lying from those in charge of pandemic response.

Protecting the elderly for me is number 1- but the population as a whole now have learnt a lot. So I think at some point, personal responsibility and personal risk needs to come into play.

If people are allowed out and about but there’s a virus around that could potentially do you harm due to your personal circumstances-age illness etc- the advice might be don’t socialise but the decision is yours and yours alone- none of this nanny state business.

But nursing homes and hospitals are different so should be better protected. That’s my view but the thing is, whatever the next virus it may well be more deadly, behave differently and even in healthy people, play major havoc - so we might well be back to everything closes, 5km limit etc etc - and look, for a time until we get to grips with what the virus does, that’s ok- but not for the duration the stupid limits were imposed last time- it was way OTT- by Summer if 2020 the healthy were willing to risk it and the unhealthy knew to stay the hell away from people - that should have been where we left it.

It’s a way to limit travel and spread of the virus in the short term that’s all - I’m not advocating months of it though, just enough time to get a handle on what we’re dealing with - limiting travel did save lives and it helped also to bring on an instant overall cautious approach from the public - the “science” is simply limiting the spread of the virus coupled with the order to “not mix” - that’s as scientific as it gets but short term it makes sense

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Like the science where Ireland stopped little kids from playing in parks? That science?

The fact that years later some people still can't see how moronic the pandemic response was, that is why this country will repeat the same mistakes all over again. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Does this mean you are debunking the debunked debunk. I’m sure someone will be along to debunk you soon😂

Lol, you can't throw in Fox News as your source of scientific data and expect it go unnoticed.

Must be handy to get your science and politics opinions in the one place though.

Ok if you think so provide the numbers of actual diagnoses that were missed ..that number doesn't exist . Why ? Because it is potential misdiagnoses..those numbers are not and won't be available for a long while yet , if ever .

It's a statistical risk , not an actual number .

And because services are aware of the risk , they are changing the probability of it coming to be .

In not sure that some people still complaining about restrictions have got back to "normal". It seems to have triggered some sort of suspicion of everything, but an inability to filter out facts from fiction. Some sort of PTSD perhaps. Which is understandable I guess.

Seem to have no problem gaslighting me. I didn't express an opinion either way. I just explained the system to people who obviously haven't a clue how it works.

For example you're suggesting they weren't given more resources, extra protective gear etc. But you're wrong they did. You'd know that if you'd visited one. Problem is there's a staffing crisis. Once staff get COVID, or associated illness's it means less staff to go around. Also people (who don't believe in the rules, or under financial pressure) circumvent the rules, meaning it gets spread. Meaning even less staff. They locked down the nursing homes. Ironically here you are arguing against those rules, that were put in place to help with the situation in the nursing home and the health service. You're literally sawing the branch your own argument is standing on.

We got some things right, some things wrong. I was fairly pro vaccination/ pro lockdown if it helped protect vulnerable people but some of the measures were half arsed and just caused resentment to build in people. I don't think the country would be so cooperative next time

We had a weird mix of doing things like not closing international borders for ages, so you could go on holidays, but closing things like building sites which are mainly outside. Internal travel impossible to police. People weren't locked into their homes for two year no matter what they complain about.

What name calling is in that?

covid threads rearing their head again... oh god

Control, fear, locked in their homes. This is all peoples head. We were never locked in our homes. You could always head to the local shop, go out ramble around the local park. 99.9% you'd never seen enforcement.

Ireland never been great at following rules. Can't even form a queue for a bus. Never mind obeying rules that didn't ever exist.

Got reactivated by anti lock downer comment...again.

There's an irony in people saying no one cares about COVID but can't stop themselves talking about it.

If people don't care about it they should stop posting about it.

Lockdown in Ireland...

"The Office of Public Works reported Phoenix Park, Dublin, was “extremely busy” on Sunday with all car parks “near capacity” at about lunch time.

After a Garda request, and in a bid to control numbers going to the park, the Chapelizod Gate was closed until 6pm.

Gardaí Turn Away Visitors And Tow Cars In Wicklow Mountains...

Fingal County Council reported its parks were “extremely busy” on Sunday...

Donabate beach was also very busy, as well as the nearby north Dublin beachside suburbs of Malahide and Portmarnock, where the car parks were congested.

Other locations such as Sandymount in south Dublin and Howth in north Dublin were also very busy with day-trippers.

What argument?

Its matter of public record.

They closed the gates because they were too FULL. At one point there was a two hour to get out of the park.

It's why they moved the on path cycle lanes to the road in the phoenix park. Too many people on them. Was a safety hazard of collisions. This was during lockdown. Parks never been busier.

They should have tested patients for Covid and whether or not they had it should have determined what happened next.

I do not want to derail or continue the discussion. This is the sort of thing that should have provided a permanent lesson, just as rail and air crashes lead to permanent changes in operating procedure.