Moon landing hoax

It must be a bit worrying for him cause he's pushing 90. Going to be hard to find a replacement super genius with all the talents and expertise this one dude had.

Would you rather nobody challenged you on your wild claims and we all just agreed that the moon landings were faked?

Sounds like the makings of a pretty boring forum tbh.

It baffles me that you think it would require many, many people to fake this. The footage is dog's bollocks, get a grip please!!

You've already told me you are only interested in JFK/911 so not really interested in persuading you about anything. But to lurkers (if there are any left) who are genuinely interested in the topic, I will put answers to your questions here.

The "astronauts" are all in a tightnit faction, namely freemasons. They will never blow the whistle because 1. they are making too much money and 2. they are under severe duress and will likely have their or one of their family members head blown off (like the attempt at Mark Kelly's wife. Mark clearly pissed someone off with something relating to his recent venture into politics). There are so many other highly suspicious incidents that happened over the years such as a "suicide" where one former NASA scientist was found in a bath with his throat slit. They are purposefully brutal with their punishments to send a message (you should know this already with JFK). The apollo 1 astronauts being burned alive was another example. Get the message across to those who don't play along - you or your family will die a horrific death. If I was privy to any info relating to the hoax, I certainly wouldn't be blowing the whistle, and even if I was to, who would listen?

The footage that has been shot since the moonlandings is a joke. It is so easy to fake it. Most of the footage is shot in front of green screens, often times the astronauts wont' even be in the same room but they stitch the segments together to make it look like they are. Here is some very crude early stage footage where they were in fact all together in front of a green screen. And before you ask, no you can't actually see the wires because they are edited out in post-production:

Here's another one where there is a snapping sound in the harness rigging, causing astronaut Tim Peak to lose his bearings for a split second:

Here's an image of George Bush Snr visiting NASA HQ. You can clearly see some unedited footage in the background showing Tim Peak in front of a chromakey (green) screen:

And here is the footage with the end result, the footage of Tim Peak manipulating a large CGI drop of water side by side with the unedited version:

There is nothing sophisticated about what they are doing. All their footage since the 1950s ALWAYS aligned with the capabilities of Hollywood film studios.

Here is the testimonial footage you asked for of Eugene Akers, son of Cyrus Akers of Cannon Air Force Base:

Some other compelling links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdAg-3GF8rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_bPFmVVlFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28YV9LTb61I (bubbles in space :D)

This is only about 1% of the evidence out there proving the fraud that is the moonlandings and space activity in general. But of course, the usuals will swarm in, spam out the thread with mindless repetitive drivel and in a few weeks will claim I provided zero evidence as usual...

Something something freemasonry I think.

To fake global space travel for the last 7 decades would have required millions of people..

Most of the people who have ever worked in NASA

Most of the people who have ever worked in all space agencies globally

Related scientists, astronomers, physicians, and experts

The entire GPS industry

The entire satellite and satellite communications and broadcasting industry

You've involved millions of people in an imaginary conspiracy rather than face the fact that you can't understand how rockets work in space.

Leaving aside the fact that markus has to believe that documentary is false, since it claims stuff could go into orbit...

I've never seen a believer actually explain how all the shadow stuff was actually supposed to fit into the conspiracy narrative.

If Nasa was faking being on the Moon, there's no reason why they'd use multiple light sources or such. It can't be that they didn't just make a mistake as they would have been experts in photography and film and they'd be working with the most perfect conspiracy in history. They'd know that the photos would look fake to even non-experts who don't know anything about photography. Nor can it be that they were simply lazy and didn't care about the details, since apparently faking things is easy and they go to great lengths to fake stuff today.

It would make far more sense for them to just light the set like hoax believers think it should be and hand them less evidence.

Or if they didn't do that for some reason, they could have just used their magic computer skills they apparently had to fix the photos after the fact.

It would have been trivial for them to airbrush a C off a rock or fix the crosshairs on a picture.

Or even then, they could just not release the photos that show these mistakes.

Theorists don't want to address these points or think about them. Doing so might run the risk of realising the real reason all of these "mistakes" are used to prove a conspiracy.

@King Mob - your post off topic and so has been deleted.

HS

The blue square thing is made of fabric and used for measurements on video, you can see the ISS as normal behind it:

(435) Astro Academy: Principia - Circular Motion - YouTube

The reason I brought this thread back again is what's the theory behind russia having a fake fail and india having a fake success, what are russia and india (and the rest of the world's governments) colluding on?

@King Mob another off topic post deleted. You know the drill

HS

I appreciate that you want to learn about the conspiracy and this is exactly the kind of discussion we should all expect in this forum. I used to love everything related to space but as soon as I started realising it was all fabricated, it was rather upsetting and took a psychological leap to get my head around at first. I do not expect you to watch all the videos, I just put those there for supplementary material for anyone interested.

But some of the obstacles that are getting in your way are unusual I must say. This one that too many people would have to keep it a secret, just has to stop.

1.The footage is absolute garbage, always has been. Convincing to people who aren't really paying a whole lot of attention, but complete garbage to those who are. It does not take hundreds and thousands of people to shoot the footage they are showing us. In the 60s and 70s they had airforce hangars where they shot the footage. In the Akers video he spoke of trucks going in and out of the hangar with gravel - do you think they would have to tell the truck driver "Hey, just so you know, we are faking moonlanding footage, but please keep it a secret ok?" This would be ridiculous wouldn't it? Indeed there have been thousands of people involved in the deception, but 99% of them were completely unawares. Once the set was ready, it was the 10 or so men listed in the Akers video who actually acquired and edited the footage that would then go on to fool the world. And before you ask, yes they did indeed launch a rocket and yes it took a lot of people to achieve this feat. Were they privy to the deception? no. Where did the rocket go? It crashed in the ocean out of sight.

From the 90s onwards they have greenscreens and parabolic flights. The only proof that NASA have related to what they are doing in space is the footage they show us. All the deception lies in the footage. When you think about it, in 70 years, there is actually very little footage considering what they have achieved. And what they have is complete garbage really.

I don't see why shooting the footage would require hundreds or thousands of people but hijacking 4 planes at the same time and flying 3 of them into three buildings wouldn't? NASA = the Freemasons. The Freemasons have 2 million members. They acknowledge that they have secrets. How come one of the 2 million haven't revealed the secrets?

Don't get hung up on this.

2.You are getting the videos mixed up. I showed two seperate incidents/gaffes involving Tim Peake. One with the chromakey screen (Chromakey screen is simply a green screen with the grid on it to help them when editing the footage). There is no source video for that as it's not available to the public i.e. it's an unedited fraudulent video. You can clearly see there is a green ball suspended in the video in front of the chromakey screen. Some eagle eyed skeptic then went and found the matching footage that showed Tim Peak manipulating a floating water droplet (which was CGI'd in place of the green ball):

The background with the ESA and union jack flags, even the lighting on Tim Peake himself, are computationally added retrospectively. There is nothing bleeding edge about any of this stuff, it is literally the same technology the weather man uses.

The other video with Tim Peake was a blunder with the rigging. You can hear a snap sound and a slight drop of Peake's waist as he somersaults. This should not happen in zero gravity.

In another blunder, the video editor completely neglected to edit the harness off of one of the astronauts in the background. Easier to see in the video but here's a screenshot:

Source: https://youtu.be/x6XeELc3QH8?si=94j9sVPHNMdQONZ6&t=701 (@ 11.41)

You cannot see the wires because they are edited out using software. You can often see them reaching for something that isn't there. That is the wire that is edited out.

With regard to AKer's testimony, dismiss it all you like but it gives us a really unique perspective on the moonlanding hoax. I don't see why the son of an ex-military person would go on the record and taint his father's name as a windup.

No, lets not pretend. Explain what you think is going on in the footage, then I will address your other points. You can't take a completely unrelated topic just to distract away from the evidence I have provided.

Here's some more footage posted by the Indian fraudsters:

Incredible that people believe this is real. No wonder NASA got away with it for so long.

It's entirely related to the topic. It is central.

It undermines your entire line of argument which is based on a notion of space flight which is that it is not possible.

And yet we have visible, documented, established proof in the form of satellites and the ISS.

This is why your claims have no foundation or credibility. The theory falls at the first hurdle.

I'm actually a bit surprised by how many videos there are showing people photographing the ISS:

Some even seem to be in response to flat earthers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD-huRAnSb0

I wonder now if all of these youtubers are part of the conspiracy?

Watch the video I posted, that "blue screen" image is right there in the video and matches the item Tim is holding, you are 100% incorrect in your assertion there with incontrovertible proof.

And if you are 100% wrong on that long held belief, don't you think it's possible, nay probable, that you are wrong on everything else?

To summarise several years of this..

Conspiracy: All human powered space travel, moon landings, landings and probes to other planets, international space agencies, all satellites orbiting earth, the international space station and all science on the subject is "fake".

Source: One person

Evidence to date: None

That video was released 9 months after people pointed out the original gaffe. We would have to be naive to think NASA aren't monitoring the internet for people spotting their mistakes and releasing follow-ups for the "fact-checkers" to use in their articles.

So what about the other videos then with the harnesses either being pulled or not being edited out? No comment on this? We haven't even gotten onto the bubbles in space evidence.

For the lurkers (if there are any at all), the question of the ISS and GPS, despite this one being completely off topic to moonlanding/spaceflight hoax and despite me explaining in other threads in nauseating detail, I will explain it one last time here.

GPS

GPS or Global Positioning System is a proprietary technology owned by the US government. How it works is not in the public domain. Asking me to prove how GPS works would be like asking someone to prove how Coca Cola is made. There are many explanations out there that refer to satellites zooming around and aircraft and cars using radiowaves and line of site with the satellites to calculate their position but these are all bogus, even the ones on "official" sites. If GPS actually worked like this then there wouldn't be gigantic GPS blackout areas over every major ocean i.e. the place where you would need GPS the most. This is a well-known fact in aviation.

Having said this, I have a very good idea how it works. GPS is just a commercial form of Multilateration. Multilateration works using very precise time and many different fixed and moving positional coordinates. Anyone can contribute to this network by getting an ADSB and MLAT dongle, entering their exact lattitude/longitude and syncing their time with the internet. I am currently contributing to the multilateration network as we speak helping aircraft calculate their exact position. Airports have their own large scale navigation systems using dishes. Commercial multilateration (which is what I believe GPS to be) is basically a contract with every commercial phone network company to use their antennae to ping off and calculate position. To use GPS in your car or lawnmower etc. all you are doing is paying for the privilege to use ANY phone network antenna to calculate position. Sat Nav in your car can often run into the same issues planes do over oceans, if there is no antenna to ping off in remote areas you are going to lose your position. This wouldn't happen if there were magical satellites floating around indefinitely above us.

ISS

This is another thing (much like the moonlanding) that we are completely reliant on NASA telling us what it is. If NASA didn't say "this is a floating lab flying at 24000km/hr at 400km altitude, here's some footage to prove it" nobody would know what the hell it is. There is something, likely a drone that shoots across populated areas at a time specified by NASA. This is literally all anyone knows. Those videos of people showing 'ISS' shaped objects flying in front of the moon are fraudulent. Anyone can fake those.

Those unit square screens are standard for lots of things, you're simply wrong there, not admitting it says a lot about you and calls into question your reading of other evidence.

But, as said, why did russia fake a failure to the moon and India fake a success?

Thinking about it, lays even more problems for the theory.

If the GPS works as Markus says with the need for satellites, then surely they'd just do that method and then wouldn't require any deception at all. Doing it one way and claiming it works another, impossible way is completely pointless and add even more levels of secrecy and conspiracy. And it runs the risk of engineers and experts (or even not experts) figuring out GPS doesn't work like it should.

There's no benefit to claiming GPS uses satellites other than to try and trick people into thinking satellites exist. But we are also being told that this fails completely because it's obviously a trick.

This is why it's difficult to get any concrete answers about conspiracy theories. The more solid they become the more clear and overwhelming the contradictions and flaws become.

Also there's so many hobbyists that hack every device known to man... So extraordinary none of them picked up on this. 😂

Also bare in mind we've not actually be provided a single motivation behind any of these people actually being involved in such a conspiracy.

It's kinda the opposite of a murder mystery.

There's no motive, no means and no body...