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Ire v Samoa 19:45pm - On RTÉ Two

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    #332
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users Posts: 922 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031624#Comment_121031624

    Most probably something to this, they did look a little sub par from the start.

    Greater scheme of things this is better than a 40-0 walk over, bit of a wakeup call.

    Not sure we learnt a huge amount bar if JGP goes down we are in serious trouble.



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    #333
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031674#Comment_121031674

    No. 100%



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    #334
    MattressRick
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    These warm-ups smell a bit like previous bad world cups like the last one and 2007, with all the signs beforehand pointing towards an underachieving world cup but us all thinking it'll be alright on the night.

    There's an easy first match but I imagine the goal was to be playing much much better than this by now. Worrying signs.



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    #335
    Podge_irl
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031698#Comment_121031698

    They smell like it apart from the rather colossal difference of us actually winning all our games



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    #336
    Interested Observer
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031528#Comment_121031528

    Correct, we almost certainly would have lost if we'd played with no scrum half.



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    #337
    sxt
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    Andy farrell looked completely shellshocked in post match interview. And so he should be.Ireland very fortunate to win that game. This is a big set back in terms of self belief. So many players not performing. Experienced players like VDF,Henshaw,Henderson not performing anyone near their level for multiple games now. Rest of the team played poorly.



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    #338
    Interested Observer
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031552#Comment_121031552

    He was fine, and there's no way we have the same ref for two of our four pool games.



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    #339
    mun1
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    Jesus., the hard ons here to denigrate Murray and Crowley are trumpian to say the least

    Winners (those who were borderline) from todays match

    Baird

    crowley


    Losers from today match based on who they were playing

    Healy (even without the injury he was poor )

    bealham

    stcokdale

    stewart

    henderson

    loughman

    McCloskey

    JOB



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    #340
    Podge_irl
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031719#Comment_121031719

    Ireland very fortunate to win that game

    No they weren't by any possible reasonable metric. 3 tries to 1, with that one try being an utterly bananas one that just happened to come off a samoa player's face. They were the lucky ones.

    It was a not a good performance, but you are just making **** up.



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    #341
    dublinman1990
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    Now that was a game of rugby for the neutrals out there.

    A four point win doesn't sound like much in the minds of everyone here. But as a third win in a WC warm-up game. It wasn't an easy one to get it right. It was a tough grind for everyone out there.

    We will take the result as a precautionary plan of action, with some improvements to add to it, if the conditions at the WC go sour for us as they head into the tournament in two weeks time.

    Cian Healy's calf injury was a painful moment in the game for me. His reaction to him coming off the pitch was not something that Irish rugby fans would look on with a lot of pleasant memories.

    Jimmy O'Brien's and Robbie Henshaw's injuries are a worry to look out on as well. We do have to keep an eye on them as they are key players to let us go on to a great result in the game.

    Ireland's 2nd half was much better than the first 40 minutes.

    They were more smart in how they played their game of rugby while the conditions were still causing them to go through some handling errors. Those mistakes and handling errors did cost them in some areas of the 2nd half. But their intent in scoring those tries had more than made up for their costly mistakes.

    The substitutions in the 2nd half had to give us that belief that we had to win this game. And they did it so it was job done.

    The game had all the hallmarks of not having our main lads out in the starting 15. They were already guaranteed to go on the plane to Paris anyway. It was a precursor to how the other lads in the team were going to get those seats filled up in the meantime.

    It gave us some great food for thought in how the lads in reserve can show us their potential to be good enough to be on the plane for a WC. And since that job was done tonight; Andy Farrell along with his management team now have to make some very big decisions as to who get on that plane to Paris in two weeks.

    It's going to be some job for Farrell to get it right. But I hope that whatever he decides for the team is right one for the fans.



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    #342
    AbusesToilets
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    Couldn't ask for a better test with SA's physicality to come.



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    #343
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031644#Comment_121031644

    Mixed bag from Doris - couple of mistakes and if you're going to try an up and under you need to at least give the impression that you can somewhat execute it. VDF and Beirne probably minding themselves a bit, both had quieter games but will need to see tackle stats. Henderson an odd one, couple of good moments and showed good leadership killing himself to get back for the first Samoa try but was one of a number of players who looked very tired early on.

    Wings got very little early on but Stockdale showed up well. Hansen more involved but we seem to be using him that way and we see him stepping in anywhere from 12 - 15. Interesting that he's increasingly looking like a highly versatile play maker but we keep him on the wing. I think Farrell likes that all action sweeper option and Lowe offers a slightly more direct but similar option on the other wing.

    Stewart won't be going to the World cup bar a crises. Unfortunate for him but he struggled, Loughman played fine without setting the world alight, difficult coming in knowing he probably had little chance to travel but I'm sorry to say it looks like he will now.

    Midfield offered little, we had to defend some very hard carries through the centre and honestly I think we were a little rattled by the physicality. Just not up to pitch. Jimmy O'Brien struggled despite his try.

    Really not sure about who I'd pick for MOM. Baird went well but could have gone to Hansen again either. It was probably Herring in reality, as soon as we had a set piece and settled into our game we cracked on. Closing the game out so poorly another blot in the copy.



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    #344
    sxt
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031730#Comment_121031730

    Did you miss the last 5 minutes of the game? Samoa were in the ascendency and should have scored at the end


    79 mins: Or is it? Samoa gather the drop out and force the issue once again. And once again, Ireland give away a penalty in a good position. This time Sopoaga does find the corner and this is it. Line-out Samoa, five metres out, game on the line. Can Ireland defend in? Ireland 17 Samoa 13


    77 mins: Samoa are finishing this game with all the momentum. Gaps are opening in the Irish defence and they give away a penalty, whch Samoa kick to the corner. Oh no! They should have kicked to the corner but Lima Sopoaga kicked it dead! What a killer for them. Big let off for 



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    #345
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    Lads if we want to have an inter-pro pissing contest; there was actually a Leinster Munster match today. The good gals won and the revenge tour on Frank Murphy began in earnest /sarcasm

    More seriously, Crowley wasn't great and Byrne wasn't the winning of the match.

    The dependency on POM and Ryan in the pack for leadership is a bit worrying.

    Herring is possibly the most important player in the squad until Sheehan/Kelliher prove fitness. Wrap him in cotton wool and feed him soda farls.

    Have a nice night and roll on the real thing.



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    #346
    Podge_irl
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031767#Comment_121031767

    Why should they have scored? They didn't have a great set piece platform and didn't manage to create any other scores throughout the game except one incredibly lucky one.

    Ireland were the better side and deserved the win. It was not lucky.



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    #347
    fitz
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    I like Crowley, but his performance today didn't advance his case imo...probably didn't hurt it too much either.

    To say it's Trumpian to point out he mixed the good with the poor today is way over the top, and to say he was one of the "winners" for us today requires ignoring mistakes and lack of game management.

    I do think he'll overtake Byrne once Sexton retires, but nothing about today's performance says he's definitively done so yet, imo.

    JOB is being unfairly judged on some handling issues during a game where the ball was spilling all over the place. His positioning and timing to reach the ball in the air was spot on, I thought, and I'd have no worries about him as backup 15, though he's not in the same class as Keenan.

    I though Hansen showed his class, Baird was very good, and Byrne was solid and started barking at people when he came on. Herring and Ryan were the the most impactful subs. Ryan was our best player, despite the short enough time he was on the pitch, he really upped the energy of the whole team.



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    #348
    MattressRick
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031706#Comment_121031706

    Just about winning tonight. Looking at 3 wins is just putting the blinkers on, when the form is ****.



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    #349
    fitz
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031748#Comment_121031748

    Yup, this was bruising, but will stand to us, though the Healy injury is really crappy.



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    #350
    Mr Disco
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031719#Comment_121031719

    Henderson often plays like a lazy dog



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    #351
    Strumms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031720#Comment_121031720

    My error, I was reading on phone, he’s assistant for two. Refereeing one

    thought he was useless, not fine.



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    #352
    TRC10
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    So in our last 4 matches, we've struggled against the 8th (twice), 12th and 13th ranked teams in the world. Our lineout is an absolute shambles and our scrum got demolished by Samoa. But the head in the sanders will no doubt say all is fine and it will all turn out grand on the day.



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    #353
    Podge_irl
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031791#Comment_121031791

    16, 19, 6 point wins.

    On an Irish record 13 match winning streak.

    Fucking awful form yeah.



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    #354
    Mr Disco
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031826#Comment_121031826

    We will do well to beat Scotland and get out of group and if we do we will be smashed in the quarters.



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    #355
    aloooof
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031827#Comment_121031827

    We'll at least hit 15. Winning our other 2 pool games would bring us to the QF to equal the record... that'd be a nice way to do it.



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    #356
    Podge_irl
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031837#Comment_121031837
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    Do well to beat Scotland 🙄

    We hammered them 5 months ago in Murrayfield while having an injury crisis on the pitch.



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    #357
    JRant
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    I'm over in Perpignan, about 20km from Bayonne, and the heat this week has been brutal. High 30's every day and barely dropping below 30 at night. I'm not one bit surprised the team looked a bit sluggish today but this will stand to them over the course of the next few weeks IMO.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #358
    Dubinusa
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031767#Comment_121031767

    Wtf!



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    #359
    kippy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031698#Comment_121031698

    Agreed. That said a lot of the other top teams in a similar boat outside of SA potentially. Hard to know. However I don't see us doing well. Don't hink we have a deep enough squad.

    Really hope this post is quoted back to me in a few weeks time and I am made to feel silly.......



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    #360
    fitz
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031844#Comment_121031844

    Winning a World Cup while setting a new winning streak record of 20 games in a row would be an incredible achievement, and I'd say it'd be some time before we'd see another team hit a 20+ game streak.

    For all the whining about these warm up performances, it really does show how much consistency Farrell has brought to the team in terms of knowing how to win.



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    #361
    Dubinusa
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121031826#Comment_121031826

    You must be fully aroused?



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