General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

I didn’t say he was initiating contact, I haven’t even seen it. Someone asked what initiating contact meant and I outlined what I think it meant. Utd were very good one year at winning penalties and paid a price for it then for a year or two because refs were on to what they were trying and reacted, maybe overreacted in some cases. But when you award a penalty, then see what you awarded it for, you’re going to be wary about awarding it again. There was also a rule change too about winning penalties by “initiating contact” after that season when a record number were awarded. Maybe you think it’s a grudge, but it’s just the facts.

Relentless pressure, was only a matter of time.

Tbf there are some pundits who are just dense and utterly insane with rubbish takes, Aluko and Agbonlahor for example rarely seem to be addressing any kind of reality at all. Others like Keown are comically biased.

Sky commentators have a very low threshold of what constitutes a foul when it comes to Grealish

Some finish! City slacked off a wee bit and paid for it.

Sheffield United equalised with 5 minutes to go and I just knew they wouldn't hold on to it.

They’ve missed one sitter and another good chance to level it again

Who was the long haired SU player who let Walker take the ball back at the byline for the winner?

Won't sleep tonight

Can't listen to the vast majority of them. I couldn't care less what they say.

Trent blessed to still be on the pitch.

Edit: probably wasn't. Didn't actually get him in the face.

2nd yellow all day long. Ref filled the jocks

Onana's was a penalty for me. People argue it was a collision by both, but I think he initiated it. But as I said here at the time, I'm not going to go out of my way to change someone's mind who thinks it was simply a collision.

It was a domino effect of decisions.

The ref didn't give a free kick for the push in the back by Gordon, so Trent threw the ball (onto the pitch?) while sitting on the ground after being pushed over. I'm assuming annoyed at being pushed over from the back and off the pitch. The yellow card was given instantly.

It wasn't like some other examples I've seen in the last couple weeks where players are holding onto the ball for 30 seconds instead of taking a throw in. But the referee deemed this as time wasting so that's it.

I don't think the actual foul a minute later was an actual yellow card offence and as it was his first foul, the 'totting' up reason can't be applied.

Trent mistake leads to the goal

WTF?! red?

That lad is an absolute menace to his own defence.

Neville is literally ignoring that it was a brilliantly timed tackle.

It was a foul. Came through the back of him.

In real time I thought he got the ball but on replay it’s obvious he just kicks through Isaks legs who turned him and was through on goal

Correct decision imo but definitely debatable

think i would have taken off gakpo rather than diaz, he is one of their best players

The ref straight out with the red. Then cowering around as he's not sure about what he's done is right, until VAR won't overturn his decision, then he grows a bit of a spine and gestures to get off the field to VVD. I don’t know, VVD won the ball. But did he commit a foul?

Neville as ever is obnoxious on co-commentary.

That’s a ridiculous save