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San Francisco 49ers Discussion

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Yeah - I was shocked by it. The Sports Illustrated name gave me confidence to try them and have used it for 3 games and no issues at all. It isn't like they bake in the price elsewhere, when you switch between them and the other resellers you can see the savings.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Finally get our picks started tonight. Very happy to see Aiyuk wasn't moved and hoping they don't let Trey go, especially if it is anything less than an early 2nd plus other picks.

    The team goes in with no real needs, which is good as we'd be in trouble otherwise given how long we'll still have to wait. OT, Edge, S, Kicker would be nice but BPA all the way.

    Didn't think they'd make all their picks last year but they proved me wrong. Surely 11 picks is too many with a stacked squad so presume there'll be some movement. Hope they dont try to package too many of their thirds to move up though, would rather a few lottery tickets when there shouldnt be too much more chance of a late 2nd or early 3rd being great than their late 3rds



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    That was a pretty good looking draft in terms of numbers. Never know until camp begins/pre season. There could be a few gems in there, a few that need work to get there. With no high position, I'm all for reaching for those, in the hopes of finding something. The K pick I'm good with. Gould wasn't coming back, he's still unemployed, so happy with a rookie, the best available. The Pats taking a kicker 13 picks after Niners solidified that pick & coaches reasoning (not going to be there in the 5th). No OL taken but some UDFA signed already...that Joey Fisher guy has huge upside, and he's 25, so sensible & should take to coaching. They must be pretty happy with Poe & Zakelj from last year to just take some UDFA on the Oline. Still now the weakest part of the team no doubt. There's cap room for a free agent (CMC restructure), but you know Lynch is going to go Edge!!

    Definitely seen the Purdy effect with very few QB's left after the 5th round. Haener, DTR all gone earlier than thought. Probably another UDFA QB going to be added for p-squad.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Agree with all of that, I'm happy with that draft. That is two years in a row where everyone looked to try to copy the 49ers, last year all the players who had Deebo like abilities flew off the board.

    The analysts rarely rate our drafts highly with the current leadership, aside from their first in 2017 where they 'stole' Foster along with taking the consensus top pick Thomas and we all know that ended up being a disaster. Since then we've continued to pivot to trusting data points for players that aren't really taken into account by analysts, like specific scheme needs, intel from college sources, internal tracking data, and interviews - which means they appear to not be great 'value'.

    Feel similar about Moody, it is nearly a carbon copy of us taking Wishnowsky right ahead of the Patriots and everyone, including myself, grumbled. We got the better punter there who is on his second contract, when most of that 4th round never ended up being close to the same value. Kicker was our biggest hole so we were either paying top dollar or using a draft pick on it. When you're competing for SB I don't see how you can go with the 'pick a guy off the street' approach. Moody looks like he'll be able to get kickoffs into the endzone too which will improve our special teams significantly.

    Th other guys looked to be for spots where the team felt a guy had an opportunity to make the team and went BPA. We don't need to draft trait project guys with boom or bust ranges of outcomes, instead we need and draft for good culture fits who can be at minimum solid backups quickly, do a great job on special teams, and upside to become a star is a bonus. Can see the Brown and Winters competing for starter roles during the year and being starters next year, with at least one of the TEs being in the rotation - the rest backups.

    OT is like C and G last year, I trust the team that they have it covered with the guys they're developing and have signed. Fisher will be the annual UDFA hype candidate to be tracked all through camp. Really interested in how Poe looks in camp after a year of development.

    Final bit of agreement is on the freed up money, feel we should have an FA player or two coming in this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭rednik


    I managed to get four tickets in Section 105 from TM just now for the Bengals game, I've never been to San Fran before so just wondering if anyone can recommend places to stay? Hope to stay for a week or so and spend another week in LA.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    The last time I stayed in the city I Airbnb'd it in the Marina district (AirBnb has been clamped down on though in the city, not as much choice now). Been lots of times so dont like hotels or touristy areas there. I have stayed in Union Square before Airbnb arrived on scene, it's ok there, central anyway but in the city...I rather be near the water & Crissy Field/Presidio. The last few times I've done the playoff games, I just stayed in a hotel near the airport as I only came over for the game & one day in the city...it's easier that way. If you stay in the city, pencil in 2 hours to get to Levis if you're going by train.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭rednik


    I booked Airbnb approx 20mns from the Airport and was thinking about driving to Santa Clara for the game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Purdy cleared & good to go in camp, will be 2 days on 1 day off! QB1! Battle is on for back up make no mistake between the other 3! As with Joey Bosa, Nick waiting for the new contract before showing up. I think it gets done next week just before the pads go on & it gets real.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Looks like Lance is out the door after Darnold being named QB2 and then not showing up to practice.

    Really feel for him - think he'll end up being successful wherever he goes. If we can't get something in trade I say we have to keep him - our cap cant take the loss of releasing him and from history we need depth at the position.

    Dont agree with the Darnold decision as QB2. Presume it is due to him being more experienced and 'safer' but it is way too soon to make that call for him, as it is regular season games where he starts to fall apart.

    Looked like Lance was heading into the best situation for a QB coming out of that draft and it turned into the worst, though mostly due to injuries. The finger and leg impacted his first season and then the break last year ruined him getting the reps he needed to become the player I still think he can be. Fully understand the team sticking with Purdy given how he played but dont think he has the ceiling.

    With hindsight I still stand by my opinion at the time. After trading up the right decision was Lance or Fields (the latter was my preference but would likely have similar issues as Lance with Shanahan). If you're making that investment you need to shoot for the moon. The move up was the problem, they should have stayed where they were and taken whichever QB fell. Purdy has been a saviour for them, if he turns out to be a Kirk level QB at his cost then they backed into a decent situation.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    He's gone now. Kinda stole a 4th from the Cowboys. Glad he's gone now because the debate for the most part can stop. Pity it didn't work, absolutely, but it didn't for all the reasons in the above comment.

    As @Foxtrol said, the move to 3 was the issue. Lawrence was 1 (only guaranteed solid qb in that draft) & everyone knew the Jets wanted Wilson after the pro day (can never understand pro days but anyway!) so after that Niners were getting only the 3rd best qb at best, and it's always risky, whether Lance of Fields.

    Now sort Bosa if thats possible (he may well be waiting on Chris Jones, which if so, is out of the Niners hands). And sign Robbie Gould now. Put Moody on IR & just roll with Gould (if Moody is actually injured).



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    If I was in charge I'd have kept him. The cap savings are going to be around what a good backup would be next year. I dont have comfort in Darnold at all - if Purdy went out I'd rather see what Lance had, he has shown he can play well enough to win with the stacked 49ers team.

    Can understand why they moved him though. It sucks out the very likely calls for Lance to come in if Purdy struggles at all - that is very unlikely with Darnold now. They've gone all in on Purdy so doing everything to support that is the logical move. They will live or die by that decision (though I dont think Kyle will be on the hot seat regardless of what happens).

    A 4th is more than I expected for him given the cool market until now. At the same time it is a great roll of the dice move by the Cowboys, 4th round picks are always gambles. Surprised a few more teams weren't in for him. Despite the CMC trade we have so much draft capital going into the next draft (12 picks and 9 in the first 5 rounds) so wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a trade or two made for cheap guys before cuts or the deadline.

    Big next thing is the Bosa signing - they need to just get it done.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Saving 5M next year is not exactly a small consideration either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    It is and it isnt.

    Really depends who they have as backup next year. Darnold's cap hit this year is potentially more than 5m. The low end if he doesn't see the field or plays poorly is ~4m, while the high end playing well and winning would be ~10m cost this season.

    Unless they go for a cheaper backup next year, whoever they bring in is likely going to cost around the same or more than what it would have been to keep Lance.

    Having said that, in a scenario where they don't trust Lance and wouldnt be comfortable with him as #2 then it makes sense to take the savings.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    As Belichick would say....we're on to Pittsburgh! Finally, no more contract/trade/backup talk. We're on to football & the Steelers! 6pm Sunday, yew!



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    How are we feeling ahead of tonight?

    25 years ago we had the below classic, one of the most memorable games of my lifetime for sure.

    9 future hall of famers, back and forth game, luckily no replay reviews then and one of the most iconic plays in 49ers history




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,927 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I'd settle for what ye did two years ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Any team can lose a game if enough bounces of the ball go against them but it would a complete disaster if the team doesnt win tonight.

    Love looks like he'll be a star and they're in a decent run of form but believe they're very overhyped. Their run in has been against a lot of very poor sides and have been fighting for their lives for weeks vs the 49ers who should be fresh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭ibFoxer


    I don't know about any of the rest of ye but I went through an entire spectrum of emotion last night. Absolutely buzzing today though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    The win is superb, no doubt. But that team right now isn't beating any AFC team if they get to Vegas. They haven't been the bulldozer 49ers since mid-December against Arz. Almost like the Ravens did what we normally do to teams...it's still lingering somehow. They didn't look fresh (bar CMC) but it wasn't rust...like how the Ravens looked with the slow start. Purdy has played in the rain before but that play was pretty bad, except the last drive and the odd throw. Throws were high, wide, long...just bad. But he delivered at the end when it mattered most (and that 3rd down throw to JJ was simply perfection). Run D was bad. D line wasn't great, not bad but not what it should be...Armstead definitely not right still. Don't know how GB didn't target Thomas more...thought he had cleaned all those penalties up but that was rookie style Ambry.

    It rained a lot in Santa Clara this week...I can't understand how they couldn't get their cleats right...on their own field.

    Weather looks good for next week. Deebo looks like he should be ok - definition of a game changer 100% in the playoffs. This game might be what wakes them up proper because they were close to going out. The win is great for sure & great they won playing pretty poorly and it isn't Superbowl or bust, nobody will be getting fired here...but anything other than Superbowl will be disappointing...Packers, Bucs, Lions all can say nobody thought we'd get here, we're building nicely for the future. Everyone thought Niners would/should get here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Crazy game but it felt great going into one of those back and forth games when so many things go wrong and still come out the right side of it.

    I definitely underestimated the Packers but am still confident for next week no matter who we face.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Think I'm nearly ready to turn the page on the SB and think towards next season. Lots of understandable doom and gloom but they can easily keep the majority of the team together and Purdy should have his first ever offseason as an NFL starter - so a further jump from him might be on the cards, wild to think.

    Great news with the salary cap increase, helps most a team like us with a lot of top quality players already on the roster.

    Interesting in how they play FA, no risk of losing major starters. Can restructure a few to make a splash if they want to but not sure how wise it is with so many core team out of contract the following years and wanting to get paid. Hopefully they can keep some of the depth guys, maybe one or more of Young, Kinlaw, Ferrell if they don't get big offers, and then add a few cheaper guys who might be ring hunting. Then we have 11 draft picks coming in to bolster.

    They're really dragging the arse out of the DC hire. Presume they have to be negotiating with someone external if it is taking this long. Big name hire? Not sure how that will work with Kyle though, even if it is someone he has a huge amount of respect for (even in a shock like Bill).



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Sorensen promoted to DC and Staley brought in as Assistant HC.

    Actually like the balance - Shanahan clearly knows what he wants the defense to run and in that scenario you might as well do an internal hire - especially as the players seemed to have an issue with an outside voice. Bringing Staley in to provides a new flavour that they can sprinkle in, especially if moving from the many roles of HC allows him to get back to the type of coach that made that Rams defense so dangerous when he was DC.

    If it doesn't work out there is likely many more options next year, especially if Jets clear house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Interesting pick last night.

    Firmly in that second bucket of receivers and he was likely going to be gone pretty soon in the 2nd round, with the number of WR needy teams picking early in that round. Probably a slight reach but he looks like a really good player and most analysts seem to see him as a great fit for Kyle.

    It does leave the door open to trading one of our WRs but I dont feel that is likely at this stage. Feel Deebo could go if they got the right offer for him, though it would weaken us in our current window. Most likely Aiyuk gets resigned, Pearsall works behind him and Deebo and then they move on from Deebo next offseason.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    The team looks good & sorted after mini-camp. All but Aiyuk present. No idea what will happen him…as is normal with Niners they play hard ball & do tend to leave it to just before training camp…so expect no word just yet. Personally I'm of the opinion he's not worth paying upwards of 25 mil a year for how Kyle uses him for…doing a hell of a lot of blocking. He's worth the money for sure, but not in the way the Niners use him. The money seems to be there if they want to pay him full on. CMC re-signing is a no-brainer….can see him retiring a Niner whenever that comes. Now comes the most quiet period of the off-season before it all ramps up big time in July for training camp!



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I'm going to make it over for 2 home games this year, any tips, best time to buy tickets, transport to and from, tailgating etc?



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Nice! Don't think I will this year…after the Cowboys playoff in '23, I'm spoiled by the playoff atmosphere now!! The night games are epic also though, if you can do those!

    Transport - use the train! You can get it from the city I think, but I always end up staying in Milbrae next to the airport, and get the Cal train from there, then the VTA light rail to the stadium. Easy, just takes about 1 hr 10 mins from there. There's a specific Levis Stadium ticket you can get also, it's on the menu system for buying tickets.

    I've never tailgated but was invited to one for the playoff game, probably should have went, but I do like watching the players warm up - I'm into training etc! I was going to Fiddlers Green pub in Milbrae a bit when I went for the playoff game and on chatting when they heard we came just for the game, they invited us to their tailgate. You could try there…nice crew in the pub, even though I didn't make the tailgate.

    I get my tickets through Stub Hub. I've only bought once officially from Ticketmaster, in 2015 when the Niners were dire & tickets cheap & easy to get!! I sit in the same section everytime also, so want specific tickets…so Stub Hub works. It's section 129…that's the endzone side where the Niners will warm up, so even if you don't go to that section, that's the side of the stadium that's good to see the guys up close during warmups. The opposite side of that endzone is the Niners tunnel also for when players are introduced, and you have guys like Jerry Rice etc walking around that end zone too! The big fog horn is there too!

    You'll always get tickets on Stub Hub etc so sometimes worth waiting before closer to the time. Playoffs are naturally different but prices will depend on how the season is going! (Hopefully they're expensive lol!!)



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Thanks for that, going to 1 day game (Chicago) and one night game (Rams, the following Thursday). I'll need to sort tickets etc but have plenty of time :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Nice! Layer up for that Rams game! The sun will be out at kick-off & can be nice, but by half time it has set & starts to get chilly especially if the wind starts blowing!! If you're getting the train, those night games finish quite late, and by the time you get from your seat to the VTA train, it can take almost an hour even regular season games. The VTA runs a lot, but Cal train doesn't…I think they're usually 30 mins a part so there's time but you wouldn't want to hang around too long after!



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