Ryder Cup 2023

There is zero point arguing with the Lowry is great no matter what people

They overlap a lot with the Rory is **** and massive underachiever

Usually think GAA is a world class sport too

I don't understand the excitement, almost salivating at the prospect of Lowry not getting picked. Some openly clamouring for it!

Touting random European young lads to get picked ahead of him, it's bonkers stuff really.

My team would be Rory, Rahm, Hovland, Fitz, Fleetwood, Hatton, Lowry, Rose, Straka, McIntyre, Meronk, last pick I think could be anyone really, I'd pick a Hojgaard personally, but the last event will probably decide the last two picks, although I think Meronk should definitely be in.

The fact it's so hard to pick no.12 with Shane already in the team makes it impossible not to pick him. He's not been half as bad as people want to make out either. Used to be, that keeping your card on the PGA Tour (top 125) was a massive achievement, Shane was in the mid 70s without his best stuff.

12th spot should be interesting, still a half dozen players with a realistic chance of getting a pick.

Seemingly Thomas is getting a pick for the US, so may not be too wild to pick Lowry. Do think it's somewhere in between for him, his form hasn't been good, but not too many others playing at that level either so coukd very well get chosen due to "who else?" If he does get in, would have to hope he doesn't get a hammering (if got out before the singles)

Don't quite get this take, 3 of the best 4 players in the world currently are European!

There's always been a difference in perceived quality but the yanks haven't won in Europe since 1993!

I believe this to be a very strong European side. 7 players at East Lake (possibly a record?)

A US team maybe a little unbalanced with one LIV pick possibly putting a few noses out of joint.

As Mantis previously pointed out it wouldn't be the first second or third time a European side beat a heavily favoured American one.

I think Lowry will be picked however I fear he will disappoint as he's not in good enough form.

It is going to be a rare away win..whilst US team have unbelievably more strength ..People shouldn't underestimate the away factor and record of that over last 30 years shows that.

Europe should hope for bad weather and wet ..but not sure that will be case in Italy . We would be better off in Northern Europe..

Problem Europe have is they have a very strong team at top end ..but a team built around a small crew ..just won't work all week , one or two of them will have a bad week. We will have no plan B.. we seen what happened when Rory didn't perform..we had nowhere to go ..

USA also completely changed their model of how the team works and the edge Europe had in this area is gone..not helped by likes of Paul Mcginley and the players actually going around the world telling everyone what we were doing.

Will be about a 4 point + win for US and that is very big away from home..Some of the US players not making team are stronger than team Europe players in team.

Lots of big characters gone from.event ..Reed , Bryson, Tiger , Phil, DJ , Westy , Garcia , Poulter, Paddy - what is Shane up to ..who knows.

I like the villains and characters.

I'm not exactly going to be jumping out of bed to watch Xander , Morikowa - Homa and his 2 minutes at aimpoint .

Golf again ..lacking big names and characters..and many like Spieth , JT , Rahm , Rory are very up and down..

At least this week has an edge and is not about a pay cheque.

But I'll give it a go..I tend to get into it if any Irish or an edge to it...find it hard to look at the grown men dressed up in crowd..

The US make their picks. Spieth, Thomas, Keopka, Fowler, Sam Burns and Morikowa. Cameron Young left out, Tony Finau left out, Keegan Bradley also. Any of them would walk onto the European team. And even Lucas Glover with his recent form would do also.

Probably because he is a major winner and would be great on a team and has great experience.

Enough going on there to start..

Nobody is saying anything daft like that and Europe hasn't exactly got riches playing in top level golf outside say the top 7..

Keopka is a monster ..I hate LIV ..but not a chance in hell you would not pick him.

He has the best mental game of any pro in the world and is a physical and a massive mental intimidation for anyone..

Just him in a group will be enough to win a few games .

Ryder cup is perfect for him ..ultimate jock / real sport set up.

I'd put him at a level of like Seve ...probably one of US's most important team members ..

Think the Americans have learned it's not about picking the best players anyone it's all about picking the best team. All those times they'd pick the likes of Woods, Michelson, Bubba etc and stink the joint out.

The Europeans would much prefer playing someone like Lucas Glover as opposed to JT who has a very good record and don't forget he took rory down in Paris.

Think it needs to go back to 10 qualifiers with just 2 wildcard picks.