Tesla Talk

The updated model is in production. So there may be a firesale on current stock.

If you book a test drive through someone's referral link they get 100 credits, which isn't worth much, not sure.you get anything...

But if you buy a car via a referral link you get 500 euro off at the moment I think and they get a few thousand credits, worth maybe 200 euro for charging or merchandise.

Most owners here will have their referral link under their posts.

There are offers at the moment with low interest rates 0% or 3.9% I think. there aren't always sales at quarter end, sometimes they just give extra credits. Depends on stock levels, you wouldn't want to be relying on it as people use software to prompt them of discounts so they're sold in minutes.

Interesting thought... What happens if you complete a test drive through a referal link then place an order in the shop based on that test drive? Do you get the €500 off as if you ordered through the referal?

What are distance selling rules?

Does it say how to avail of this offer?

• Distance selling rules provide EU consumer protection rights for goods that are bought online, which means that if customer changes their mind they are entitled to a full refund of any monies paid. Of significance is that the booking deposit of 250 which is described by Tesla as "Non refundable" was actually refundable under "Distance selling regulations". However over the last quarter Tesla have become much more aggressive and pushing back on this, using the fact that if a client has actually Test driven the car before placing the order they have had the opportunity of viewing the car before purchase which invalidates the distance selling protection. In fact they have amended their Order Agreements to reflect these revised terms. I have some sympathy with this position as many customers were ordering 2,3 and 4 cars with the intention of only completing on one (hedging their bets) and taking comfort from being able to get deposits refunded on the orders that they then cancelled which had obvious implications for logistics and managing deliveries ..part of reason why cars featured in Inventory with discounts to ensure they were sold before quarter end.
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A big indicator that the highland version won’t be a price increase and may even be cheaper. They’re clearing the inventory, and yes it coincides with end of Quarter, but the dog in the street knows that the highland deliveries will begin in Oct as soon as this quarter closes.

It's listed on the SEAI website as being grant approved.

Anyone see Elon Musk drive his own car (facelift Model S with FSD and HW3 - exactly like my car) with FSD v12 alpha software? This is the first version based entirely on machine learning / neural network. There is no hard coding at all and the few dozen lines of codes are just to hold the stuff together. You'll spot that the car doesn't actually come to a complete stop at a stop sign. Exactly like us humans do.

This is HUGE news, although I suspect very few people can fathom this 😂

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1djxXlVLaLOxZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1695247110030119054%7Ctwgr%5Eb91c965a1f6ff98c4d4a7daa3fc741d85aee2555%7Ctwcon%5Es1_

Spotted some posts on twitter earlier that the rumours are highland is set to be unveiled in China this Friday...

In all seriousness, do we feel it's worthy of a wait or should I take a €2K (1.5k + 500 loyalty bonus) discount on an inventory model. I obviously just need people to tell me to do it here so I don't feel like I've made a mistake....work your magic

I don't see how FSD will be green lit in the likes of the EU. You cannot have a legitimate FSD capabilities based on video analytics alone. It's incredibly risky. Other marques and competitors solutions that have redundancy sensors including radar lidar etc are more appropriate for FSD applications. It's incredibly dangerous to propagate the fallacy that video only is appropriate for FSD. I'd legitimately don't see how the EU would clear it. Minimum standards around redundancy of sensors and systems should be the minimum bar.

This isn't me having a pop at tesla, we don't allow air craft take off without multiple redundancies in their sensor system including backups to backups of the same sensors. Why we would allow hundreds of thousands of cars out on our roads lashing around doing on the fly video analytics.

Working in the industry I'm infinitely aware of both the processing power required to analyse footage but also the huge gaps that are exposed in footage analyse on a constant and daily basis.

Video should be a central part no doubt. But I don't see tesla stripping out their other hardware as anything other than a cost cutting ploy and they'll license out their video analyse to other brands for partial fsd.

It won't muster up full fsd within a regularly framework in the EU where sensible safety will be front and center.