Star Wars: Ahsoka [Disney+]

pixelburp · 29-08-2023 2:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121039091#Comment_121039091

The Jedi IMO worked best as Merlin'esque figures of myth and almost something ineffable. Who were they, what did or could they do? They had a sense of beings outside our reality, not in it.

Plus as you hint at, the biggest crutch is this absolutely bone headed storytelling choice where the nominal heroes are emotionless monks, with actual human responses seen as antithetical to the Jedi code. There's a simple reason no Vulcan has lead a Star Trek show, and instead functioned as emotional foils. It's impossible to create a magnetic lead when they're these robots.

Now, the prequels robbed any mystique of the Jedi and made them look like inert chumps wedded to bureaucracy. Jesus. while it seems dozens survived Order 66 whenever convenient for a story. I've been on record as hating the Jedi so maybe folks are like jaysus STFU but I also think they were best served as flavour, and something mysterious. The more I see of them the less I like em.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121041193#Comment_121041193

I just don't know what purpose Sabine being stabbed with the lightsaber served.

Cheap drama.

Tony EH · 29-08-2023 3:17pm

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The Jedi worked best when they were all wiped out by Vader and it was only Ben, Yoda and Luke left to carry on the religion. Now, in any Star Wars production (bar 'Andor') they're all over the bleedin place, irrespective of what period the story is set in.

There's more Jedi in operation post Order 66 than there were before it.

But they are as dull as dishwater which is probably down to bad writing than anything else. Most of them try to pull off this bullshit "Oriental" pseudo philosophical mumbo jumbo, complete with naval gazing poses and it just is never anything but tiresome. Dawson is doing the same gig in this series.

CastorTroy · 29-08-2023 4:09pm

The drama from Sabine's stabbing at the end of episode 1 was a bit redundant considering it was hard to miss the thumbnail on Disney+ for episode 2 showing Sabine and Ahsoka.

silverharp · 29-08-2023 9:42pm

The ratings seem to be poor

https://deadline.com/2023/08/ahsoka-viewership-streaming-1235530030/

"However, the ratings for Ahsoka Episode 1 “Master and Apprentice” are down by 50% from the Live+5 day of Obi-Wan Kenobi, which dropped on May 27, 2022, with that Jedi force pulling in 2.4M households. Ahsoka Episode 1 also is down from the first episode of Season 3 of The Mandalorian by 29%, with that series from Filoni and Jon Favreau earning 1.7M U.S. households in its L+5D. The Mandalorian S3 began streaming on March 1."

EltonJohn69 · 29-08-2023 10:26pm

No episode 3 today on Disney plus ?

chrisire · 29-08-2023 10:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121044675#Comment_121044675

Not out till 2 am tomorrow morning

EltonJohn69 · 29-08-2023 10:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121044761#Comment_121044761

Confirmed: I’m going to bed

CastorTroy · 30-08-2023 12:40pm

Hmm,

Was I the only one that thought Hera's son looked more like Ezra than Kanan?

Varik · 30-08-2023 1:25pm

Theory about character secrete identity.

Really hoping Inquisitor isn't either a healed Kanan or a clone. Inquisitors and masks are the norm, and production wise it makes things easier as he's played by a stunt man.

fritzelly · 30-08-2023 9:20pm

Well that was all kinds of stupid - up there with the scooter gang, maybe even worse

Walking on the outside of a ship in space, doing cartwheels to fight off enemy spaceships

odyssey06 · 30-08-2023 9:22pm

The pilot droids very similar to cylons.

Slydice · 30-08-2023 9:26pm

3: Oh my goodness 😲

Well that was a nice little bit of filler story.

I liked how the baddie had the same headset as Anakin in episode III

I liked how the planet

landing scene and the forest around the ship felt a whole like when Lukes X-Wing was on Dagobah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121046407#Comment_121046407

The NAME! 😲

Relikk · 30-08-2023 10:27pm

I liked how the baddie had the same headset as Anakin in episode III

Very similar ships to the one Grievous had in III, also.

That was another enjoyable episode, for me.

gmisk · 31-08-2023 2:30pm

I am enjoying it so far, a lot more compelling than Obi Wan or that Boba Fett nonsense. But nothing near the level of Andor (always nice to see Mon Mothma) or the better bits of the mandalorian. The whole Sabine intro was errr eye rolling ..I am a rebel me driving away on my bike listening to rock music while I should be at an event...zzz, the space walk on the ship/fight thing this week similar.

But enjoying the villains, Ray Stevenson especially (I am guessing Shin might flip sides eventually..) and Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Rosario Dawson both very good, David Tennant also doing a good job with the voice role. I am also a Chop fan and the loth cats were very fun and well done.

pixelburp · 31-08-2023 2:37pm

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The whole Sabine intro was errr eye rolling ..I am a rebel me driving away on my bike listening to rock music while I should be at an event...zzz

Glad someone else mentioned that cos I wondered was I just a cranky old man (both can be true?), but that scene was such a cringey bit of character building: I'm such a rebel, I don't PLAY BY YOUR RULES, I'm driving intensely and thinking about my life.

Tony EH · 31-08-2023 2:47pm

I think most people would agree that that scene was bloody awful.

EltonJohn69 · 31-08-2023 3:30pm

I find that the sith characters are the most interesting… they really need to make a Darth Bane show… a lot of Ashoka just feels feels recycled… not the worse though, and might pick up when Thrawn appears but maybe this whole show is just a set up for a movie

B.A._Baracus · 31-08-2023 8:02pm

Forget the storyline....

How has Mary Elizabeth Winstead been keeping that ass hidden for years? Lol.

CastorTroy · 01-09-2023 8:05pm

Ahsoka got changed into her suit pretty quick, especially since it looks like it would be awkward with her (checks google) lekku.

And seems human genes are stronger than Twi'lek going by how human Hera's son looks, with a bit of green.

pixelburp · 01-09-2023 8:39pm

Caught episode 2 and it's all right. It's more watchable, with more focus and direction than Boba Fett or Mandalorian became. The constant sense this is a sequel to another show (it is, that's fine) kinda gets in the way as maybe more was needed to make it friendlier to newbies. I knew Thrawn from the old EU but like Mando season 3 this show made no attempt to establish who he is and why anyone should care.

The brief fight scene was fun, a bit stiff but had a bit of energy about it. The post Empire bits in the shipyard was a nice bit too. Ray Stevenson still has a good growling energy but it's sad cos you know he so recently passed

Slydice · 03-09-2023 12:18am

From all the references so far, this feels like cog in the storylines of many stories more than a sequel to one in particular. It has story before it to deal with and story afterwards. Filoni is usually pretty good at this type of work and feels like he's doing it again. I wonder how much he's banked on folks thinking it's just related to Rebels.

Homelander · 03-09-2023 9:23pm

I had heard a good bit of negativity around it including that it is "worse than Boba Fett" which set my expectations down to zero.

It's nowhere near as bad as that, and I would say better than Obi Wan as well. Visually excellent, fairly consistent in tone, not as distractingly child-like goofy as Obi Wan and Boba Fett were in many places, well paced and the action is decent.

Not particularly amazing and some absurdly stupid moments here and there but reasonably solid. If the rest of it at least holds to this quality I'll be happy enough with it overall.

paulbok · 06-09-2023 2:29pm

EP04, great episode, big jump in all round quality (pun intended).

It's been a while since I'm actually yearning for the next episode of any tv show.

CastorTroy · 06-09-2023 2:56pm

Just noticed the lightsabers aren't red for Baylan and Shin. More orangey.

expectationlost · 06-09-2023 8:43pm

why she bring her kid along?

Slydice · 06-09-2023 9:38pm

huh, thought I posted a reply already... eh something like..

4: liked the episode, the nods to the feeling of Dagobah / Starkiller base forrests.

and that I guessed it might have been Ezra who pulled her through but Anakin makes sense too and it worked with how he looked at the end of Jedi.

Relikk · 06-09-2023 10:36pm

A strong episode, that. Loving Ahsoka's single saber Samurai style, and Ray Stevenson and Ivanna Sakhno are just perfect. They went a bit overboard on the ol' "smoothing" there at the end, though.

fritzelly · 06-09-2023 10:51pm

Covering the mouth of a robot, whose mouth doesn't move, to stop him crying out Help. Seems every episode has to have at least one absolutely stupid moment in it

paulbok · 07-09-2023 7:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121078630#Comment_121078630

It covered his vocal speaker?

Though why robots in such a technically advanced society can't communicate wirelessly and send a distress com quietly, is more of a stretch

EltonJohn69 · 07-09-2023 11:48am

Did they fail at making Ashoka feel like the character from the cartoons ? It really feels like it’s just rosario dawson in bad make up and prosthetics. Maybe they should have gone with an unknown actor…. Episode 4 wasn’t too bad though, started slow but I’m interested in seeing where it goes…. But it does feel like this whole series is just a set up to a movie.

The show would really benefit from some actual real life locations, Foundation looks a hundred times better.

They didn’t get this one right

Star Wars: Ahsoka [Disney+]

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