Another Serious Car Crash

Another tragedy, more lives lost unnecessarily. May they rest in peace.

But we do need to have an honest discussion about our roads and the high number of deaths on them. To continue to call these incidents 'freak accidents is just putting our heads in the sand and not helping any side of the argument at all.

I don't think blaming the guards for not enough checkpoints or not enough speed vans is a valid thing to do. When we all pass our test, we have to realise we are in control of a very dangerous piece of machinery, and we have to handle it responsibly. Don't speed, don't take silly risks, stay off the phone, respect other road users etc. It's all quite simple really, but unfortunately too many people ignore the basics. I witness examples of all the faults every single time I go out in the car. Mobile phone use is the major scourge now. The number of drivers approaching me with their eyes focused down to their lap is frightening

Meet 2 of them in the last 2 weeks.

But even if the Gardai put out 100x the number of checkpoints, you have to remember that it would still only affect a tiny tiny proportion of those using the roads.

There are hundreds of thousands of cars on the roads at any one time, over the same amount of kms of roads, the chances of ever meeting a checkpoint are still negligible.

The guards are easy to blame. It's not them speeding, driving dangerously, driving under the influence etc. Is there no personal responsibility at all?

We need to get away from the revenue generated approach of how we tackle road safety. We all know and see it. Speedvans in locations where there is low to zero serious risk of accidents. Checkpoints for tax. When was the last time your tyres were inspected at a checkpoint?

AGS and the RSA have a huge part to play in the lax approach to the rules of the road that has set it.

Laws are f all use if ignored and not enforced.

RIP.

Get him his W licence and he can drive a 4 tonne tractor with a silage trailer on the road legally. He won't even have to do a test. 😡

124 so far. Significantly up on the 100 to this date in 2022.

Obvious issues & desperate road tragedy in Tipperary & other parts of the country so Gardai set up a checkpoint in slow moving sedate traffic in South County Dublin.

dont think so

124 deaths seems a big price to pay for convenience. I'd like to see all private cars phased out over time with an adequate public transport system introduced to replace them, but I know that will never happen. I'm also puzzled as to how so many cars are driving in to walls at such a force that most the occupants are being killed. Modern cars are built to be much safer in a crash, not to mention the compulsory seat belts front and back. There needs to be a proper investigation to what's going on and steps taken to address it.

It's an unrealistic approach for so many reasons even if it could be done.

Not obviously commenting on this particular incident (RIP to all), but I think sometimes, especially on the smaller country roads, not reading the road properly is the root cause, not speed. I think speed is the secondary cause.

Telling people to “slow down” just hasn’t worked - even if you’re not exceeding the speed limit, you may well be driving too fast for the road conditions- tight bends, unexpected behaviour etc etc

Id like to see more emphasis placed on “reading the road” and “anticipating problems”- if you do that, you might take less risks and reduce speed at certain points .

Saying “speed is the cause” is sometimes just not helpful - yes an accident may not have occurred had the person not been going so fast but how do you encourage someone to “not go so fast”? Maybe encouraging them to “read the road” might help - most of us stick to the speed limit - those that want to speed will likely continue to speed- but maybe there’s a chance of less accidents if these people start to “read the road” a bit more.