Spain - Women World Cup Champions - 1 week later. (How not to manage a crises)

Is his Ma still on hunger strike?

I did kind of address that in reply to one of your posts the other day. I said I would hope I could forgive.

But as you've asked directly...

I worked in a very male dominated department. I was the only woman, on a team of 24. There was a lot of camaraderie, and the whole team were very tactile, handshakes, hugs, the occasional peck (amongst the lads and to me). I was always treated like a sister, daughter, friend.

If it was my most recent male manager, it just wouldn't have happened. It couldn't have happened cause I can't stand him. With him it was handshakes only, and only when necessary. I would not hug him. He knew this.

So if he kissed me in ANY circumstances, it would be a court case.

The male manager before that, I adored. As a boss and a brother and a friend. If he had kissed me in celebration of something, I would have known he didn't mean it in a sexual way.

I wouldn't even have to forgive, it would have been nothing.

Thanks for the reply

There are individuals who would argue that it was fine, just a kiss, stop being so "dramatic", it was a celebration, etc.

Spanish Women's World Cup winner Jenni Hermoso laughs and jokes as she shows off a photo of the kiss Luis Rubiales gave her which days later she denounced as a 'sexist act' that left her vulnerable.

The footage of the 33-year-old on the team bus as the players prepared to leave the stadium in Sydney is set to become dynamite in the hands of suspended Spanish FA chief Rubiales as he seeks to defend himself against allegations he committed sexual aggression.

Hermoso was filmed laughing out loud as she showed off a screen grab on her mobile featuring the now-infamous kiss just over a week ago alongside a photo of former Spanish international Iker Casillas locking lips with reporter Sara Carbonero as she interviewed him live after the men's team won the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. Another woman on the team bus was overheard laughing: 'Like Iker and Sarah' as Jenni continued to show off her phone.

Many of Jenni's 23 team-mates who have said they will refuse to play again for the national team until Rubiales is history, were then filmed singing 'Beso, beso' - Spanish for 'Kiss, Kiss' - as the suspended football chief got on the bus before telling the women jokingly: 'Stop, you're making me blush!'

I don't have "proof", I have an opinion.

But there was Hermoso's radio interview afterwards, saying the kiss was nothing and that she had a great relationship with the president. She laughed it off.

There was Rubiales apology where he admitted the kiss was wrong but without any bad intent. He said it was with a player with whom he had a great relationship. He laughed it off.

And now there's this. What looks like a whole team, with a great relationship, laughing and joking with El Presi, about el beso.

No wonder he woke the next morning believing it was not a serious matter...

https://as.com/futbol/femenino/el-video-de-las-jugadoras-en-el-autobus-despues-del-beso-de-rubiales-a-jenni-v/

Pretty sure too if she had kised him there would be nothing about it either.

Before I wrote my post, I had seen quotes from Hermoso's interview when she said the kiss was nothing, and they had a good relationship. I had also heard Rubiales' apology, when he said he was wrong to do what he did and that they had a good relationship.

So their own audios and admittance were known of by me, at the moment I wrote the post. I am correcting you. You are partially wrong.

I don't think there was any audio recording of a Hermoso interview. Do you have a link to one?

The quotes in which Hermoso appears to say they have a great relationship were allegedly written by Spanish Football Federation officials:

https://www.euronews.com/2023/08/23/spanish-football-federation-accused-of-faking-jenni-hermosos-statement-on-unacceptable-kis

"The released text said: "(The kiss) was a totally spontaneous mutual gesture due to the immense joy of winning a World Cup. The president and I have a great relationship, his behaviour towards all of us has been outstanding and it was a natural gesture of affection and gratitude".

"We can't think any more about a gesture of friendship and gratitude, we won a World Cup and we're not going to deviate from what's important," she purportedly added.

Those words were written by the Spanish Federation's communications department without consulting the player herself, Relevo claims."

Thank Christ she is gone, we were starting to look like a real professional outfit that could have achieved something.

But feelings were being hurt so you can't have that.

You are welcome.

But you are wrong again. "We already know you see nothing wrong or questionable"?

I have said he acted unprofessionally. I have said he acted inappropriately.

But, I do not think he carried out an act of sexual assault or used his role to abuse or domineer over the players.

If they are going after the character of Hermoso now, that will not save Rubiales job as his actions this week have doomed him, but it could be used in his defence of sexual assault.

I'm surprised the Spansih FA don't have a code of conduct like most company's have that they could have said he was being judged against.

Waffle. Follow the law. Innocent until proven guilty.

Speaking for herself *before any influence from RFEF, or other sources

*My opinion, not fact, but based on the chronology of releases and reports

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cope.es/programas/tiempo-de-juego/amp/noticias/jenni-hermoso-tiempo-juego-nivel-deportivo-puedo-lograr-mas-que-esto-20230820_2862032

Its really disappointing that this crap has over shadowed a sporting achievement for these players. I very much feel the "victim" didn't have too much of a problem with it but then the mob made her change her tune and she is taking the publicity with it. Absolute nonsense the whole thing, referring to it as sexual assault is a slap in the face to true sexual assault victims aswell. Its a nothing burger that has been turned into a huge drama by an OTT public opinion.