The government is hoovering up too much housing - the private working taxpayer is hurting

You earns your money, you pay your taxes and save what you can towards housing.

Then the state, using your taxes, competes against you in the housing market. To house those they have a legal obligation to.

No, I don't call that fair.

The problem there is planning and politics.

As for the state "silverware"...you mean all those inefficient companies where the worker came first and not the customer? Those companies where there was no competition and we paid through the eye and there would be strikes every year? The ones that needed bailouts every few years? They were just protectionist rackets overstaffed and delivering poor service.

My only issue is the job isn't finished yet.

The government has no business running any company imo.

It is telling that the only people guaranteed a no questions asked "bonus" every year are welfare recipients. For the forever unemployed able bodied it's an award and in many cases a top up payment on their "other" income.

It shouldn't be tolerated. There should be no such thing as lifetime welfare. Far from helping anyone it's damaging to society.

We need an actual socialist party, one that's not pandering to the fringes of society but providing services to actual tax paying workers.

Really.

2200 houses allocated from housing list in Limerick last year. Of those 2200 over 1450 were to unemployed occupants.

So those 1400 tenants do not work and get a house

Please explain how that is not a free house. Oh and please don't point out that they have to pay rent so its not free housing.

That nominal rent is paid from money that they get each week for sitting on their fat asses , which is funded by irish tax payers. So yes free housing plus all the other add ons.

I can easily see where my tax deductions of over 700 euro per week is going.

Free housing

Prepare for the backlash my friend despite the facts you are 100% telling the truth

In your own words your father worked , and that is my point.

You cannot compare your situation with families who make a lifestyle choice of not working , yet hand out for everything going.

Can I also point out if you scratch beneath the GDP and GNP stats we most definitely are not one of the richest countries. We are up to our oxos in debt that will need to be repaid at some stage ,and completely over reliant on fdi Corp tax.

Says alot really with that response.

Perhaps but that's tantamount to the same thing, since the supply on the open market is constrained thus.

Taxes being used to compete against and undermine the housing aspirations of people trying to get on the ladder.

It's a rotten system.

Exactly.

If the unemployed are in a house paid for by the state and all they have to do is make a nominal contribution to rent payment from their dole money, its a free house.

The state is giving them money so they can give it back to the state. (if the state is lucky and the doley decides to pay them back their own money - 30% of social housing tenancies in Dublin are in arrears)

Put the unemployed in house shares to free up homes for those contributing to society.

If house shares are good enough for the professional classes, they are good enough for the doleys.

You mean like Leo promising the people who get up in the morning that he will show them some love. €50k before you get into the high tax rate. No USC. And there were a few more empty promises from him.

The problem is noone believes it anymore. The like of Leo makes promises and then laughs behind your back.

Did I hear half a million adult children still living at home with parents this morning?

Are these on the homeless list?

Well they are free to vote for SF of course, but it is a dumb move from that point of view and if SF get in, watch the benefit brigade pull in even more cash at the expense of the working man.

I think if a centre right party were to emerge, it would have done so by now.

But I agree it is odd that nobody has taken that space because there appears to be a huge apetite for it amongst the public.

Perhaps FG returning to a more centre right manifesto is the most likley outcome, but I dont see it in the short term. There is no sign of it currently.