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Price gouging by the pub, restaurant & hotel industry

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    Those same pub owners are the one's pushing for increased prices and the earlier closing times in off-licenses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭enricoh


    If on a Sunday spin try the newGrange hotel navan. There last Sunday e14.50, top class. Some places I was in recently would have got 2 portions out of the beef I got. The thatch in Drogheda would have got 3!



  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Sid 1984


    Oh I accept that entirely, but a Heineken or Carlsberg still won't be €6 I'd imagine 😄



  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Sid 1984


    Regarding the Carlsberg.... Norn Iron Carlsberg is 3.8% whereas it's 4.3% here. And different taste as well.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Tastes the exact same to me!!! and besides Ill just drink an extra couple of cans!!!!



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    Not the point being made Sid, what was being discussed was prices rising in Portugal. If a beer goes from €3 to €4, it has increased 33%, even if it’s cheaper than here. I noticed in Portugal this year that the prices in the pubs and restaurants had increased, I asked if I was the only one. Of course there will be cheaper, and more expensive places, for instance a few years ago I was shocked at the bill I received for dinner and a few drinks in Villamoura, the marina there probably being the equivalent of Templebar for that area, but like you I paid €2 for a super bock in a tiny tapas place in Lagos. But what I did post is that €2:50 for an imported beer is very very cheap in Portugal, so I suspect the poster was just posting for effect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,432 ✭✭✭✭L1011




  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭gct


    I'm waiting until tomorrow when the pubs and restaurants put their prices up again as they "Have no choice but to pass the VAT hike on to the customer".

    One thing is sure, I didn't notice prices drop anywhere when the VAT rate cut was introduced. Anywhere that raises prices tomorrow has lost My business and this time I mean it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Oh Yeah. Switch on the 6/1 news this evening and listen to the moaning. I'd love them to be challenged though. As you have pointed out VAT cuts weren't passed on. Even when a lot of these places were availing of government covid schemes they didn't pass anything on to the consumer.

    Feel free to name and shame on here lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Lofidelity


    It was understood by the industry that the vat cut was a device by the government to help them back on their feet after the covid shutdown. So they probably felt no guilt about not passing on the vat saving. This ignores the cash supports they government paid them of course.

    So what do you do when prices rise tomorrow? Not much you can do, it will hardly be noticed as everything has gone up since covid anyway. One small thing i do is bring coffee with me from home every morning after the regular place i went to put the price of a large americano over €3.50.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,694 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I can never understand how a carvery and proper restaurant food are often priced similarly.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.




  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    The bottom line is as long as anybody is foolish enough to pay these prices then these organisations will take advantage. I've zero sympathy for anyone walking into a bar and paying 7 quid for a pint or whatever.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,297 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    13.5% back tonight

    I think smaller restaurants will find it hard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Think it'll be the straw that breaks the camels back for a lot of places. A lot of tourist towns didn't have a good summer and the kitty is bare for the winter.

    Very short sighted stuff from the government imo, who are swimming in cash. They pay lip service to small businesses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,731 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    9.45 now for a large big mac meal.....

    The chips as photographed were before any were taken.... not being greedy but if you are charging that sort of cash maybe you'd be inclined to want to fill the box ? As depicted in your advertising ? So perhaps people get a slightly better appreciation that they are getting value for money and your staff give a **** ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    I wouldn't leave any business rob me like that. You should be on to customer service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Its a good point but from the govts point of view they have rolled over the reduced VAT for a while now.

    Its true that other than June, a lot of the summer was a washout, especially in the west, so i think you are right that in that a lot of rural businesses especially will close up shop in the next 6 months, sadly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    This is said a lot, but the pubs in Dublin are generslly packed with people paying those prices. You dont even have to go into town to see it.

    Head to Ranelagh or Rathmines on a Friday or Sat night. Mobbed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,297 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,731 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Drive through I’m afraid…. More 😐 about the price than the actual shortage of fries…. Which is probably more just to do with a ditzy employee but still.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,115 ✭✭✭893bet


    Prices are not the biggest concern I have. It’s declining service levels and quality and logic!

    Really poorly trained staff, slow orders, reheated food etc.


    You can stomach the 20 euro carvery when you leaving thinking that was a decent portion at least and the meat was really tender.


    Sadly it’s usually “I can’t believe they charged me an extra 2 euros as I askd for an extra scoop of mash and the meat was very grizzly, and the carrots looks like they hadn’t been cleaned properly before cooking, and why did it take 15 minutes to get us a desert menu”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    Very few establishments reduced their prices when VAT was reduced from 13.5% to 9%. They simply pocketed the difference for themselves. And now they're in the media lamenting the increase. One proprietor quoted in The Irish Times said "VAT is VAT, it must be passed on", I'll bet he didn't pass on the reduction so quickly or at all. No sympathy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Local coffee horse box, yesterday a coke zero bottle 500ml was two euro. Today its 2.70. Wow, that vat increase must have been bigger than i thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    VAT on soft drinks is 23% so there was no VAT increase for that product, just the price gouging from the greedy owner.

    Don't give him any more business. Simple.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    Prices in pubs are generally increasing every three months it seems.

    You can barely get used to the new increased price before another one arrives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,135 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    5.65 euro for a pint of Carlsberg in a pub in Dundalk. They can keep it. I'll stick to my local in future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,759 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Anyone else out and about and report on rises. I assume takeaway coffees etc gone up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭getoutadodge


    Did an airport pick up of a friend yesterday. Airport To Dublin 7. Grand total : 54 euro. Shove it!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    Just be aware, the following would be the increase of a coffee for example.

    €3.00 with VAT @ 9% = VAT of €0.25 or net of VAT €2.75

    With the VAT at 13.5% = VAT of €0.37 cent.

    That means your cup of coffee should go from €3.00 to €3.12. We can be sure that the VAT reduction was not passed on to consumers in 99% of cases. Anything more than say €3.15 for that cup is price gouging and nothing to do with VAT. The reduced rate does not apply to alcohol, bottled drinks, cold food items (like salads), so there should be no increases there.

    I was over at a friends last night and we were talking about eating out. We used to go out (in our own lives) like once a month for no particular occasion. Now we don't bother with that, save for a particular special occasion. If you are going out now, cut out the food, and the number of drinks.



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